Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00115)

Dear Jake,


Thanks for defending this perspective. 

In general lines, it helps much. 

Regards,  Carlos.  


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Data:Sat, 7 Oct 2006 20:09:18 -0700 (PDT)

Assunto:Theos-World More Phoney Teacher "letter"

> More phoney teacher letter
> 
> In dan's communication below of 10-3-06, 
> he says that Blavatsky in Key to Theosophy 
> (pp. 38, 51 orig ed.) is quoting or 
> refering to ver Planck's article in 
> Judge's "The Path," and thus supporting 
> his imaginary teacher letter (quoted in 
> ES Instruction, No. 5). By what he quotes 
> from the path, however, - IT DOES NOT 
> SUPPORT THE LETTER AT ALL, and there is 
> nothing similar between his two examples. 
> What's the deal here? His quoted evidence 
> has nothing to do with the point at hand 
> at all!! Maybe its thought that everyone 
> is too stupid or uncaring to notice. (There's 
> no reference to any "Pledge" in his Path quote.)
> 
> I'm seeing more that this whole 
> "letter" is hokey. The pseudo-teacher 
> says that "each of us has a dugpa inside 
> of us." WE DO NOT! This is not 
> supported anywhere in the literature. 
> We have a high and low self, and the 
> low self is not a "dugpa"! Here's the 
> supposed teacher quote, according to 
> ver Planck:
> 
> "Judge the action, not the person. You 
> never know the true motives. Never 
> judge human nature on its lowest level. 
> Every one has a potential Dugpa in him."
> 
> Pure dugpa BS!
> 
> It also has the psuedo-teacher 
> saying "judge the action, not the person." 
> WELL, THIS IS BS TOO! Of course you 
> judge the person. It is a meaningless 
> statement. You judge the person in 
> everything. If you lock a person up 
> for a crime, do you lock up the "action" 
> and not the "person"??? In the genuine 
> teacher letters, people were most 
> certainly judged, as in this statment 
> from the MLs:
> 
> "Cook is a _pump of filth_, with 
> perpetually working pistons and the 
> sooner he screws them up - the better 
> for him." (MLs, p. 271, TUP)
> 
> One might say that for another's 
> "perpetual working pistons" as well. 
> - jake j.
> 
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> DC writes:
> 
> <3. Was HPB Aware of this KH Letter??? Part 2
> Posted by: "danielhcaldwell" danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com 
> 
> Date: Tue Oct 3, 2006 12:13 pm (PDT)
> 
> 
> 
> =================================================
> 
> 
> Julia quotes from the specific KH letter under discussion.
> 
> 
> become aware that Julia had excerpts from this unpublished
> Mahatma letter/manuscript that Jake thinks is phoney?
> =================================================
> 
> 
> Concentration letter is in the July, 1889 issue of THE PATH.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> it becomes quite evident that Julia was a main contributor to 
> Judge's magazine.
> 
> issue of THE PATH. This article is titled:
> "Judge the Act: Not the Person: Adepts and Mediums."
> 
> accusations of Mabel Collins.
> 
> On the second page (p. 98) of this lead article, Julia writes:
> <"What is our present Duty? Hear the words of the Master. "Judge 
> the action, not the person. You never know the true motives. 
> judge human nature on its lowest level. Every one has a potential 
> 
> 
> <"Dugpa, black magician; one devoted wholly to self. This [quotation 
> above] and other quotations [later in this same article] are from 
> the private letters of the Adept."
> 
> 
> from this letter from "the Master"!
> 
> 
> letter. 
> 
> <"...let us read some remarks fron an Oriental Adept which came into 
> our possession many months ago...."
> 
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/pathjuly1889.htm
> 
> 
> letters of the Adept, including what we are calling the KH 
> Concentration letter?
> 
> read each and every issue of THE PATH as it was published. We know 
> 
> 
> other two being HPB's LUCIFER and Adyar's THE THEOSOPHIST.
> 
> discovered evidence that shows that indeed HPB read this issue of 
> THE PATH and IN FACT read Julia's lead article.
> 
> one finds HPB writing:
> =====================================================
> 
> they be right? As well said in the Path, our theosophical organ at 
> New York, treating of such a case: "Suppose that a soldier is tried 
> for infringement of oath and discipline, and is dismissed from the 
> service. In his rage at the justice he has called down, and of whose 
> 
> enemy with false information, -- a spy and traitor -- as a revenge 
> upon his former Chief, and claims that his punishment has released 
> 
> you? Don't you think he deserves being called a dishonourable man, a 
> coward? 
> =====================================================
> 
> 
> of the Master is quoted which again reads:
> <"Judge the action, not the person. You never know the true 
> motives. Never judge human nature on its lowest level. Every one 
> has a potential Dugpa in him."
> 
> On page 51 of THE KEY, Madame Blavatsky again writes:
> ====================================================
> 
> July, 1889.) 
> ======================================================
> 
> titled: "Judge the Act: Not the Person: Adepts and Mediums."
> 
> 
> "As well said in the Path"
> and
> <"As well expressed in the N. Y. 'Path'",
> 
> as well said and as well expressed by Julia!
> 
> article and no doubt was also aware that in this same article Julia 
> gives TWO quotes from the private letters of the said Adept/Master.
> 
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