Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00102)

More phoney teacher letter
  
    In dan's communication below of 10-3-06, 
he says that Blavatsky in Key to Theosophy 
(pp. 38, 51 orig ed.) is quoting or 
refering to ver Planck's article in 
Judge's "The Path," and thus supporting 
his imaginary teacher letter (quoted in 
ES Instruction, No. 5).  By what he quotes 
from the path, however, - IT DOES NOT 
SUPPORT THE LETTER AT ALL, and there is 
nothing similar between his two examples.  
What's the deal here?  His quoted evidence 
has nothing to do with the point at hand 
at all!! Maybe its thought that everyone 
is too stupid or uncaring to notice.  (There's 
no reference to any "Pledge" in his Path quote.)
  
    I'm seeing more that this whole 
"letter" is hokey.  The pseudo-teacher 
says that "each of us has a dugpa inside 
of us."  WE DO NOT!  This is not 
supported anywhere in the literature.  
We have a high and low self, and the 
low self is not a "dugpa"!  Here's the 
supposed teacher quote, according to 
ver Planck:
  
"Judge the action, not the person.  You 
never know the true motives.  Never 
judge human nature on its lowest level.  
Every one has a potential Dugpa in him."
  
    Pure dugpa BS!
  
    It also has the psuedo-teacher 
saying "judge the action, not the person."  
WELL, THIS IS BS TOO!  Of course you 
judge the person.  It is a meaningless 
statement.  You judge the person in 
everything.  If you lock a person up 
for a crime, do you lock up the "action" 
and not the "person"???  In the genuine 
teacher letters, people were most 
certainly judged, as in this statment 
from the MLs:
  
    "Cook is a _pump of filth_, with 
perpetually working pistons and the 
sooner he screws them up - the better 
for him."  (MLs, p. 271, TUP)
  
      One might say that for another's 
"perpetual working pistons" as well. 
            - jake j.
     
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DC writes:
  
<3. Was HPB Aware of this KH Letter??? Part 2
    Posted by: "danielhcaldwell" danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com 
<danielhcaldwell
    Date: Tue Oct 3, 2006 12:13 pm (PDT)
  <In my posting at:
  <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/36218
  <I stated:
  =================================================
<Was H.P. Blavatsky reading THE PATH magazine?
  <During 1889 and 1890, there are at least four PATH articles in which
Julia quotes from the specific KH letter under discussion.
  <Did H.P. Blavatsky read any of these articles?
  <I suggest that if HPB read even one of the articles, she would have
become aware that Julia had excerpts from this unpublished
Mahatma letter/manuscript that Jake thinks is phoney?
=================================================
  <Now I present further material which serves as evidence.
  <As far as I know, the first PUBLIC mention/quotation from the KH 
Concentration letter is in the July, 1889 issue of THE PATH.
  <Let's look at this July 1889 issue.
  <This issue is 32 pages long.
  <Julia contributes THREE articles to this issue!!
  <At this point in time as one goes through various issues of THE PATH 
it becomes quite evident that Julia was a main contributor to 
Judge's magazine.
  <Now Julia contributes the LEAD article (main article) to this July 
issue of THE PATH. This article is titled:
  "Judge the Act:  Not the Person:  Adepts and Mediums."
  <This 9 page article is a DEFENSE of H.P. Blavatsky against the 
accusations of Mabel Collins.
  <Julia signs the article with her pseudonym:  Jasper Niemand.
  On the second page (p. 98) of this lead article, Julia writes:
  <"What is our present Duty?  Hear the words of the Master.  "Judge 
the action, not the person.  You never know the true motives.  <Never 
judge human nature on its lowest level.  Every one has a potential 
<Dugpa in him."
  <The footnote to this Master quote reads:
  <"Dugpa, black magician; one devoted wholly to self.  This [quotation 
above] and other quotations [later in this same article] are from 
the private letters of the Adept."
  <I have added the explanatory words in brackets [  ].
  <You can see here that even the title for this lead article was taken 
from this letter from "the Master"!
  <Then on the sixth and seventh pages of this article, Julia quotes 
<the lengthy extracts which constitute part of the KH Concentration 
letter.  
  <She prefaces the quotations as follows:
  <"...let us read some remarks fron an Oriental Adept which came into 
our possession many months ago...."
  <See the photofacsimile of these two pages at:
  http://blavatskyarchives.com/pathjuly1889.htm
  <Now did H.P. Blavatsky read this issue of THE PATH?  
  <Was HPB aware that in this article Julia quotes from these private 
letters of the Adept, including what we are calling the KH 
Concentration letter?
  <In general, it is not a stretch to suppose that Madame Blavatsky 
read each and every issue of THE PATH as it was published.  We know 
<that HPB had a high regard for this magazine and in fact THE PATH 
<was one of the three main Theosophical periodicals of the time, the 
other two being HPB's LUCIFER and Adyar's THE THEOSOPHIST.
  <But yesterday as I was researching this KH Concentration letter I 
discovered evidence that shows that indeed HPB read this issue of 
THE PATH and IN FACT read Julia's lead article.
  <Turn to the original edition of THE KEY TO THEOSOPHY, page 38 and 
one finds HPB writing:
  =====================================================
<This shows that their idea of honour is an imperfect one. How can 
they be right? As well said in the Path, our theosophical organ at 
New York, treating of such a case: "Suppose that a soldier is tried 
for infringement of oath and discipline, and is dismissed from the 
service. In his rage at the justice he has called down, and of whose 
<penalties he was distinctly forewarned, the soldier turns to the 
enemy with false information, -- a spy and traitor -- as a revenge 
upon his former Chief, and claims that his punishment has released 
<him from his oath of loyalty to a cause." Is he justified, think 
you? Don't you think he deserves being called a dishonourable man, a 
coward? 
=====================================================
  <HPB is in fact quoting from Julia's article! 
  <HPB is quoting from page 98 of that article where the private letter 
of the Master is quoted which again reads:
  <"Judge the action, not the person.  You never know the true 
motives.  Never judge human nature on its lowest level.  Every one 
has a potential Dugpa in him."
  <And the following I just discovered like 3 minutes ago:
  On page 51 of THE KEY, Madame Blavatsky again writes:
  ====================================================
<As well expressed in the N. Y. "Path" just cited on this subject, "A 
pledge once taken, is for ever binding in both the moral and the 
occult worlds. If we break it once and are punished, that does not 
justify us in breaking it again, and so long as we do, so long will 
<the mighty lever of the Law (of Karma) react upon us." (The Path, 
July, 1889.) 
======================================================
  <Again HPB is here quoting from Julia's own words from her article 
titled: "Judge the Act:  Not the Person:  Adepts and Mediums."
 
<So when HPB writes:
  "As well said in the Path"
  and
  <"As well expressed in the N. Y. 'Path'",
  <she is in fact saying:
  as well said and as well expressed by Julia!
  <Obviously, HPB was aware of Julia' stirring defense of her in this 
article and no doubt was also aware that in this same article Julia 
gives TWO quotes from the private letters of the said Adept/Master.
  <More in Part 3
  <Daniel
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