Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00052)

Dear Marie, Dear MKR, Friends, 


Thanks to you both. 

Yes, Marie --  and I can tell you that the split was most bitter in Brazil too. 

No doubt, "Leadbeaterian Masonry", which misuses the name of the great 18th century mystic and sage St. Germain --  among other misuses --  is getting weaker and weaker. It seems to be the autumn and "last winter" of a whole cycle.  The next rebirth or spring will have to be, I guess, much nearer to the original Theosophy.... I guess, or hope, the Adyar TS will in the future meet the rest of the movement around the sacred and common fire of real Theosophy. 

MKR, I will thank you if you can bring here  to us more about this process. Please do so. 

In Brazil there was bitter discussion and dispute about money and properties, but I don't think it got to the level of lawsuits here. I should check that. 

The Adyar movement uses the TS as a facade of apparent "liberty of thought" -- and then the Liberal Catholic priests and pseudo-masonry "cardinals"  recruit neophytes from such a public .... to feed their own illusions of pseudo-occultism. 

This is not fair to the wide movement created by HPB, HSO and WQJ.

I use to call that "a trap" to neophytes.  


Best regards,   Carlos. 





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Data:Wed, 4 Oct 2006 21:00:24 -0500

Assunto:Re: Theos-World "Theosophical CoMasonry"

> The American Co-Masonic order split into two some years ago and was
> litigated in the Federal Courts and the whole episode is remniscent of the
> breaking away of US from Britain. Anyone interested can read the nice
> historical background and the legal issues in the decision handed out by the
> US Court of Appeals. It can be found by googling and downloaded. If anyone
> has a problem in locating the decision, leave a msg here and I will be able
> to locate it.
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> On 10/4/06, MarieMAJ41@aol.com wrote:
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> > Carlos, I totally agree with you about this. The split has left many
> > old members bitter, and since I have been on this forum my eyes have
> > been opened to a great deal that I wish I had known before. But never
> > too late is it? The reason I told Ken to write or contact Betty Bland
> > is because she is in a position to truly enlighten him about the new
> > co-masonic lodge that was started by John Algeo under the request of
> > Radha. All of the members who remained with the NEW lodge are people
> > who live and work at Wheaton. And the payoff for some of them was that
> > they were awarded the 33rd degree which they never would have received
> > had they remained with the old established "Le Droit Humain". So the
> > carrot sticks were tasty indeed.
> > Marie
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> > From: carlosaveline@terra.com.br
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> > Sent: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 9:51 AM
> > Subject: Theos-World "Theosophical CoMasonry"
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> > Dear Ken Shaw,
> >
> > This Masonic Order, "Le Droit Humain", which is called co-masonic
> > because it accepts women, was founded in the 19th century and was
> > "adopted" by CW Leadbeater and Annie Besant as part of the Adyar
> > Movement early in the 20th century.
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> > But only after old Olcott was dead and when absurdities started getting
> > wild.
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> > A few years ago, though, by 2002, this Order had a split. The masonic
> > rite adopted and transformed by Leadbeater was not accepted any longer
> > by the Order (based in Paris), and John Algeo and Radha Burnier then
> > led a Split and the creation of another co-masonic order,
> > pseudo-theosophical and Adyar oriented, formally led by Ms. Radha.
> >
> > In Brazil, half of the Order remained with Paris, the other half went
> > on with Radha and Algeo into a new Order, and the split opposed members
> > of the Adyar Society in a bitter way. The same must have happened in
> > other countries.
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> > It's a Leadbeaterian order and it believes in all his fancies about
> > Saint-Germain and ritualism.
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> > It also works as a power-behind-the-throne in the Adyar TS.
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> > Yet the true theosophical movement is far from being ritualistic. The
> > theosophical movement is based on the autonomy of the learner. It is
> > not popish like the Liberal Catholic Church, or authoritarian as the
> > Leadbeaterian Masonic Order.
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> > Interesting to note: Jiddu Krishnamurti utterly condemned ritualism;
> > yet most 'Krishnamurtians', including Radha Burnier, are also Masons
> > and take part in other forms of Leadbeaterian ritualism, as the
> > "Egyptian Rite"...
> >
> > Someone should ask an explanation from them.
> >
> > Best regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline, from Brazil.
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> > Data:Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:22:07 -0000
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> > Assunto:Theos-World Theosophical "CoMasonry"?
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> > > Howdy!
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> > > Do any of you fine folks know anything about Theosophical "Universal
> > > CoMasonry"? I would like to learn more about it.
> > >
> > > Ken Shaw
> > > Wonder Lake, Illinois
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