Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00035)

Re Voice Silence - Concentration Letter
  
   Well, I'm not trying to Warn against 
the heart-center, because I personally 
think that is the source of the Individual 
Monad, and all the higher insights and 
aspirations that can result from it.  Its 
the natural center of the balanced person, 
I think.  But that is different than 
purposively meditating on the heart. HPB 
DOES say that in her school technical 
meditation Begins with the pituary and 
the head, and says further that "Our 
seven Chakras are all situated in the 
head..." (BCW XII, p. 619) - which I 
take to infer that they ONLY meditate 
on head centers, not visualizing teachers 
in the heart.
  
    The Tibetan Buddhists seem to be some 
of the best of the occultists, and 
some of the worse, and everything in 
between. I sure don't trust myself and 
to sort out their practices.  Didn't 
Tsong-ka-pa throw out by Force the 
bad ones in the 14th century.  (I doubt 
they would have left willingly!)  I'm 
sure he would have changed his mind 
later on the Dalai-Lama, but Carrithers 
in the 70's wrote a long paper on the 
dark side of some of the Tibetan-Buddhist 
practice.  I have this paper on file if 
anyone wants it, albeit I think it is a 
little over the edge.
  
       The "Liking" or not was not a 
serious statement, but just that people 
argue for what they like personally or 
not often, without going deeper. 
  
      About HPB quoting from ver Planck's 
Path article:  This doesn't necessarily 
mean anything, if she didn't see the 
Whole communication.  Go through any 
neo-theosophy book or channeler, there 
are many isolated statements that one 
has to agree with.  HPB was always wanting
to "peg out," maybe she was hoping against
hope that someone else was a reliable connection
with her teachers.
  
      As to women meditating on an 
attractive male figure - well, really, 
- where is the common sense?  I certainly 
wouldn't want to be visualizing attractive 
women in a meditation.  I find it absurd.
                  - jake j.
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<4. Re: Re 'Voice of the Silence' and Concentration-Letter
    Posted by: "kensmall@earthlink.net" Kensmall@earthlink.net 
tortugacuervo
    Date: Tue Oct 3, 2006 12:23 pm (PDT)
  <Jake / Daniel et al -
  <Quotations below are from “The Voice of the Silence”  by HPB – Peking
edition 1927, text p.9 and footnotes p. 76. :
  
<Let not thy "heaven Born," merged in the sea of Maya, break from the
Universal parent (SOUL) but let the fiery power retire into the inmost
<chamber, the chamber of the Heart (23) and the abode of the World’s 
Mother.
(24)
  <Then from the heart that Power shall arise into the sixth, the middle
region, the place between the eyes, when it becomes the breath of the
ONE-SOUL, the voice which filleth all, the Master’s voice.
  
<(23 )The inner chamber of the Heart, called in Sanskrit Brahmapoori. 
The ‘fiery power’ is Kundalini.
  <(24) The “Power” and the “World Mother” are names given to 
Kundalini—one of the mystic “Yogi powers.” It is Buddhi considered as an active instead 
of a passive principle (which it is generally, when regarded only as the
vehicle, or casket of the Supreme Spirit ATMA.) It is an 
electro-spiritual force, a creative power which when aroused into action can as easily 
kill as it can create.
-  -   -   -   -   -   -
  <These citations from the ‘Voice of the Silence’ when studied with HPB’s 
ES <Instruction V (including the KH letter on Concentration) are certainly
revealing of insights into the interrelationship of the Buddhic 
principle, the heart chakra and the transformative power of kundalini.  
DePurucker’s article on “The Nature of the Buddhic Principle” in “Studies in Occult
Philosophy” adds additional context for a clear understanding of the
Buddhic principles function, both psychologically and spiritually. 
<These are just some very brief notations as this subject which would really 
need many weeks (years ….?) of careful study and contemplation….
  
<Ken 
                           
  <PS - I fail to see the value of ‘subjective’ assertions:   ‘liking vs. 
not liking’ , someone ‘of authority’ seeing or not, transmitting or not 
etc….. with little insight or comment as to meaning and no thought as to where
everything in the realm  of ‘Blavatsky thought’ has evolved to -- today 
! 
<AMAZING !                                                                  
   
  Original Message:
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<From: Mark Jaqua proto37@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:47:11 -0700 (PDT)
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Theos-World Re  Contradiction Concentration-Letter
  
<Contradiction re concentration Letter?
  
HPB writes:
  
<"[[The Tantrists]] five Breaths and 
five Tattvas are chiefly concerned with 
the prostatic, epigastric, cardiac 
[[heart]], and laryngeal plexuses.  . . . 
with followers of the old school it 
is different. We begin with mastery 
of that organ which is situated at 
the base of the brain, in the pharynx, 
and called by Western anatomists the 
Pituitary Body." (BCW, XII, P. 616)
  
<   I'd call concentrating on an image 
of a teacher in your heart a "beginning" 
exercise as it was presented in the 
"concentration-letter" and ES Instruction 
V  (BCW XII, p. 696), yet Blavatsky says 
in ES Instruction III, that HER school 
has their "beginning" exercise on 
concentrating in the head.  Isn't this 
a contradiction and evidence the 
"concentration-letter" is phoney?
   
<            - jake j.
   
   
  
 <  Good gods!  Chuck is actually related 
to a Pope (might even have been directly 
in those days!)
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