Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00032)

Thanks Leon, great stuff
Cass

leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:                                  Cass,
 The only web site reference in the below commentaries covering Iskakov's work 
 is:
 http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos648.htm
 This is a copy of the original material published on 
 http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/religion-eq-science.html, given me by my 
 correspondent, which is now closed.
 Leon
 
 In a message dated 10/1/06 9:45:49 PM, silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:
 
 > Leon,
 > Website you reference has been closed.
 > Cass
 > 
 > leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:                 Richard,
 > 
 > Thank you for again calling my attention to Iskakov's radical new 
 > microlepton
 > field theory. I had already carefully examined it since the last time you
 > mentioned it in discussion about my ABC theory.
 > 
 > It seems to me that this theory coupled with the findings of Ohatimis, may 
 > be
 > a scientifically falsifiable verification of Einstein's initial ideas about
 > the Ether as the medium of sidereal light. Accordingly, it may eventually
 > become, when coupled with the holographic paradigm of Bohm and Pribram along 
 > with
 > string theory as well as my ABC and BB's psychophysics theories, the basis 
 > of
 > an entirely "new paradigm of science" that all students of consciousness
 > study have been so eagerly awaiting since Chalmers posed his hard problem 
 > and
 > suggested such a need almost 15 years ago.
 > 
 > Unfortunately, as yet, while Iskakov's model may "describe consciousness" --
 > there is nothing in his theory that actually *explains* consciousness --
 > which is what my theory/model of Astro Biological Coenergetics (ABC) is all
 > about. As I said before, Iskakov is only talking about the Astral and 
 > mental
 > realms as the medium of the contents or information of consciousness when he 
 > talks
 > about microlepton fields and offers a mathematical description that 
 > justifies
 > their existence.
 > 
 > However, I can't see how that has anything to do with explaining
 > consciousness with respect to its origin and its aspects of awareness, 
 > qualia and will, or
 > even offering a description of how such information is transformed,
 > transmitted and perceived on the experiential level. All his theory does 
 > is explain
 > the workings of the "microlepton field" itself and its holographic 
 > information
 > carrying ability along with its electrodynamic physical properties... But
 > there is no explanation of the origin of the field or its causative 
 > connection
 > with the origin of the mental, astral and physical fields that interact with 
 > it,
 > or explaining their linkage to the non local aspects of consciousness. Let
 > alone explaining the principles of entanglement that underlie the
 > interconnection of those ubiquitous points of awareness to justify his 
 > claims of psi
 > phenomena.
 > 
 > Actually, I think Iskakov has given us a sound scientific bases for
 > verification of the ABC model which predicts such a field and its 
 > electrodynamic
 > processes resulting from the involution of the initially radiated spinergy 
 > field out
 > of the seed "singularity" of this entire universe prior to the Big Bang.
 > IOW, his theory seems to verify the concept of the ubiquitous 
 > zero-point-instant
 > singularity, as well as the electrodynamic nature of the entire infinite set
 > of ABC field involution's... Including the existence of mind and memory 
 > fields
 > that are separate, yet coenergetic entities -- each consisting of a 
 > different
 > order of frequency energy than each other, as well as that of the physical
 > and electrical fields of the brain-body -- ascribing such normally invisible
 > microlepton fields as being the body's surrounding auric fields... That, in 
 > my
 > view, are related analogously to the fractally involved primal cosmic and 
 > human
 > centered ABC fields pictured in my chakrafield diagrams:
 > 
 > http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html
 > http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/Chakrafielddiag-fig.col.jpg
 > 
 > Incidentally, I have been waiting patiently for some Russian scientists to
 > come up with such a scientific description of the ABC fields -- ever since 
 > my
 > physicist collaborator, Dr. P.S. Perchion, at a scientific conference in NY 
 > back
 > in the early eighties, gave a copy of Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine (with our
 > margin notes) to Zel'dovich and his group of visiting Russian physicists to
 > take back to Russia. He told me they were much impressed by his scientific
 > correlation's and interpretations of some of the metaphysics describe in the 
 > book,
 > and a bit proud of the fact that both Blavatsky and he were Russian born or
 > had close ties with Russia. (Perchion, BTW, was the nephew of G. I. 
 > Gurgjieff.)
 > 
 > If we carefully read Iskakov's commentaries on his theory, listed under the
 > title "A Synthesis of Science and Religion"-- it's quite obvious that he was
 > referring to the Secret Doctrine (whose subtitle, coincidentally, is "The
 > Synthesis of Science, Religion and Philosophy"). Some of his language 
 > seems to
 > be lifted almost verbatim from that book. It's interesting that he also
 > claimed his theory verified the Eastern philosophical view of karma and
 > reincarnation -- based on the "eternality of the human soul" -- which in the 
 > SD and in
 > the ABC model is the higher order triune monadic field of each individual 
 > human
 > woven from a single zero-point ray of the universal consciousness emanated
 > from the primal zero-point origin of the cosmos at the beginning of metric 
 > time
 > in this cycle of manifestation.
 > 
 > In a message dated 9/15/06 6:47:38 PM, yanniru@netscape.net writes:
 > 
 > > Leon,
 > > D*$
 > > Glad you cleared that up. But to nitpic once more, there is a QFT theory
 > > that describes consciousness. It is the Quantum Information Theory derived 
 > by
 > > Prof. Boris D*$ Iskatov (or Iskakov) based on microleptons (which I have 
 > called
 > > axions). Solutions to the resulting equations predict that weak signals 
 > can
 > > propagate backwards in time, thus supporting the possibility of prophecy 
 > as
 > > well as consciousness. Boris Iskakov is the President of the International
 > > Slavic Academy of SciencesNoNt much is available about his theory in Engl
 > isholy
 > > Ohatim natoly OhatimD*$
 > > Not much literature is available about his theory in English. I copy 
 > below
 > > what is said in my QuantumMind2003 paper:
 > > D*$
 > > A theory of consciousness, proposed by Russian researcher Boris Iskatov 
 > is
 > > discussed on 
 > .D*$ HeD*$
 > > derived a mathematical quantum theory (from transformations of the Dirac 
 > and
 > > Schroedinger equations) of an information-energy field Y residing in a D+$)M
 > global
 > > gas of micro-leptonsD+$во having several levels of particle masses between
 > > 10^-40 and 10^-30 grams. Axions predicted by GUT are about 10^-5 eV or 
 > 2x10^-38
 > > grams, so that it is likely that microleptons are actually the axions of 
 > dark
 > > matter. The equations are copied here from the above site for the sake of
 > > completeness.
 > > A Y=0;D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ A' Y'=0;
 > > where the operators have the form:
 > D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ A=2h^2V + i2h d/d t-U;D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ 
 > D*$ D*$ D*$ D*$ A'=2h^2V - i2h d/d
 > t-U.
 > >
 > > Here: Y denotes the probability density wave (the wave function); V, the
 > > Laplace operator; U, the potential energy density; and h, Planck's 
 > constant.
 > > D*$
 > > The equations of this theory can be solved to obtain the quantum hologram.
 > > Some rather exotic solutionsare also claimed. Strong signals in this 
 > medium
 > > travel at the speed of light.But weak pre- and post-signals can travel 
 > much
 > > faster than the speed of light,and there are also so-called (very weak)
 > > anti-signals that allow for theinvestigation of the past. We expect that 
 > the weak
 > > signals are due to BEC effects and the strong signals relate to physical
 > > particles. Coupling to the physical world is not discussed.
 > > D*$
 > > The experimental work of Russian Anatoly Ohatimis also reviewed on the 
 > above
 > > site. He claims to confirm the existence ofthe microlepton gas
 > > experimentally using an instrument, the aurometer, formeasuring these 
 > effects.D*$ Two
 > > scientists, the engineer and inventor Uri Kravchenkoand the physician 
 > Nikolai
 > > Kalashchenko developedD*$ the phase aurometer. Thisis a highly sensitive 
 > instrument
 > > for the remote measurement of the electromagneticradiation of any object,
 > > biological included.
 > > D*$ http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos648.htm
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: leonmaurer@aol.com
 > > To: MindBrain@yahoogroups.com
 > > Sent: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:06 AM
 > > Subject: Re: [Mind and Brain] More arguments in behalf of a hybrid
 > > realitywhere the empirical & the conceptual become one seamless unit.
 > >
 > > Unfortunately, Richard, you still seem to take my writings too literally 
 > --
 > > consequently
 > > misunderstanding their meanings.D*$
 > >
 > > In the passage below, the only thing I mentioned that was "postulatedin 
 > QFT
 > > and string theories" was/is, "hyperspace fields"D*$ D*$ I'm sorry thatI 
 > missed
 > > putting that last phrase, after "fields" in parenthasis (withoutthe comma) 
 > --
 > > for the benefit of all you literal minded physicalists whocan't "read (and 
 > see)
 > > in and around the words and between the lines" -- asa great master of
 > > metaphysical philosophy once put it.D*$
 > >
 > > As I said before, "such zero-points" and their "spinergy" or 
 > angularmomentum
 > > is theorized (in my ABC model) as being the source of the ZPE thatempowers
 > > the quantum foam which, in turn, underlies the energy of all
 > > quantumparticles.D*$ I don't think any QFT or string theory in any way 
 > contradictsthat -- even
 > > though they may not have sufficient evidence to predict or postulateit.D*$
 > >
 > > This, of course, is why I say that none of those theories can even 
 > comeclose
 > > to explaining consciousness (awareness, will) or describe the mechanismsof
 > > sensory, dream, or imaginative thought and memory perception -- whileABC
 > > covers it all quite logically, reasonably, and parsimoniously --
 > > withoutsubstantially contradicting either relativity, QED, QFT, or string 
 > theories.
 > >
 > > I suppose your nit picking of my words out of context -- like severalother
 > > debunkers in this forum who have bones to pick and axes to grind withany
 > > theory of consciousness that smacks of transcendental metaphysics 
 > anddoesn't rely
 > > solely on physical materiality or standard particle physics-- gives you 
 > and
 > > them some sort of ego satisfaction (without really sayingor proving 
 > anything
 > > :-).
 > >
 > > Nevertheless, since none of you have yet to come up with any cogenttheory
 > > that logically and consistently (in accord with fundamental principlesand 
 > laws
 > > of Nature) explains both the mechanisms and contents (as well asthe
 > > nonlocality) of consciousness (awareness) -- I stand firmly behind 
 > themetaphysical
 > > pictures I paint with those words -- for those who can see themwith their 
 > third
 > > eye and can connect them with the known *facts* of theirscientific 
 > knowledge.
 > >
 > > Best wishes,
 > >
 > > Leon
 > >
 > >
 > > In a message dated 9/14/06 11:05:44 AM, yanniru@netscape.net writes:
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Leonsaid: " Either consciousness can be explained scientifically or it
 > > cannot.D*$ If, not, then a metaphysical explanation based on existing 
 > zero-points,
 > > theirZPE (rooted in fundamental zero-point spin) and hyperspace fields, 
 > such
 > > aspostulated in QFT and string theories, is perfectly reasonable.D*$ D*$ "
 > >
 > > I say that such zero points are not postulated in QFT and string theories
 > >
 > > Richard
 > 
 
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