Theos-Talk Archives (September 2006 Message tt00419)

Cass,
   Thanks for your reply and comments.

>>b: What does "unconditioned Dharmas" mean?  I am not sure I 
understand what it means by  "Their minds are not bound by the Way,"<<

I do not present myself as a teacher or authority to anyone. I would advise 
you to locate the referenced Sutra(s) online or locate the Printed work to 
fully read and study. The Unconditioned is the Primordial Original Native State of 
our Beingness and is a study that is a means in the understanding of 
Patanjali, the Lower "conditioned" mind that is an acquirement resultant of adoption 
of apparent viewpoint in the Matter- Energy-Space-Time Creation. Our Original 
Nature has never changed but created an illusion by the extension of a Point 
and the use of the point as a means of view, experience, action, participation 
and the apparentcy of many from Unity. You can find Online reference and 
dissertation on Unconditioned Mind and Realm.
    In the Platform Sutra of the Sixth Patriarch a monk come to the Patriarch 
and asks to be given the "Non-verbal transmission of Mind." The patriarch 
asks the Monk "Have you seen your original Face?" The Monks withdrew and went to 
his cell and searched everywhere in and out of the Monastery but could not 
find it! Original nature is Unconditioned and Transcendental Reality. 

>>b:  I also read warnings about the dangers of trying to have a blank 
mind.<<

Well, I have also read and seen content as you have but it remains that 
unless you learn that you are the "Driver" of the Chariot the four Horses will 
forever run wild on the raceway of your journey. One cannot serve two masters in 
this endeavor. If people read Patanjali yet still firmly believe they are 
irrevocably the lower mind and without it they do not exist as their person, then 
they should become devout Catholics or be content to go nowhere for this 
lifetime. One has been instructed to become the "Observer" of the Lower mind and to 
take a seat aside if you will from the Lower mind and simply observe, watch, 
note, have "awareness" of it's incipient, automatic, Pavlovian responses and 
activity quite independent of any intentioned direction or thought from the real 
Being itself. Waking, Walking, Sitting, Reclining, have Mindful Awareness of 
the activity and arising and productions of the lower mind. Many Years ago in 
1968 a certain exorcise was taught, it required siting and maintaining the 
empty or blank state of awareness for two hours without a single thought allowed 
to arise  people who did it were not great in number but they also did not die 
from it lol.

>>b:  This is very interesting.  Can you give me references so I can 
look them up.  This demonstrates the power of an idea.<<

Cass, a couple of weeks ago or less I posted on the Heart thread with 
citation from an Encyclopedia of Yoga with detail of the Meditation of the Heart it 
was in that the Deer and Bhijna (seed) comment was made from. The "Seed Drop" 
Blavatsky was given by her Master that opened her I do not remember the exact 
document but I do quote correctly, perhaps Daniel or another archivist can post 
that as it is important and it is not something that was exclusive to only 
Blavatsky. both the Hinayana and Mahayana agree that the Buddha consummated his 
enlightenment at the Deer Park.

John


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