Theos-Talk Archives (September 2006 Message tt00262)

Daniel,

Sorry to say that, but you are firing to the moon.

You are talking too generally. Your allegations are rather mediumnistical.

If you want to defend the slanders against HPB as true,  I can make a letter-by-letter analysis here. 

It is the SOURCE of the "letters", not to whom they were written, which mus be discussed, and you SHOULD  know  that. 

Will your friends David Green and Terry Hobbes help you in that exchange of views? You might need their help. 


Regards,  Carlos. 








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Data:Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:39:54 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Carlos on "LETTERS FALSE AND TRUE"

> Carlos writes:
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> "Out of the 136 'letters' published by Mr. John Algeo, at least 27 
> documents are certainly false.(1) That makes 20 percent of the 
> total. One out of five letters of the volume is false. Nearly all 
> the 27 forged documents are deeply offensive to H .P. Blavatsky, and 
> more treacherously so since they are presented as if signed by HPB 
> herself."
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> But the question to ask:
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> Who is to determine which letters are false and which letters are 
> true?
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> For example, Michael Gomes in his book THE DAWNING OF THE 
> THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT quotes from two of these letters claimed by 
> Mr. Aveline to be false.
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> In each instance, Mr. Gomes attributes what is said in these two 
> letters to H.P.B. 
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> For example, Mr. Gomes writes (p. 185):
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> "She wrote to Alexander Aksakov in October 1877..."
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> and goes on to give a quote from one of the letters Mr. Aveline 
> believes is false. 
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> Nowhere when quoting H.P.B.'s words from this letter, does Mr. Gomes 
> warn the reader of his book that he is quoting from false letters!!
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> Boris de Zirkoff in his writings does the same thing. He quotes 
> H.P.B.'s words from various letters to Askakoff. The very letters 
> Mr. Aveline considers false. And no where does Mr. de Zirkoff in 
> these instances warn the reader that he is quoting fake HPB!!!
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> So maybe both Michael Gomes and Boris de Zirkoff believed the 
> letters in question were true!
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> [I believe Sylvia Cranston also quotes from one of these false 
> letters in her HPB biography. She quotes as though the words in the 
> letter are HPB's. And nowhere does she warn the reader to beware of 
> this letter or the similar letters from Aksakoff as being false. I 
> will doublecheck this since I quote from memory.]
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> Previously on Theos-Talk, Mr. Aveline has stated that Patrick 
> Deveney is now a member of the HPB Letters Commmittee and has 
> indicated that hopefully Mr. Deveney will improve the scholarship of 
> the volumes published. 
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> But does Mr. Aveline know whether Mr. Deveney agrees with his 
> opinion that at least 27 letters are false? Furthermore, would Mr. 
> Deveney be wanting to REMOVE these letters from a revised edition 
> volume I?
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> My impression is that Mr. Deveney does NOT agree with Mr. Aveline's 
> assessment of the letters in question. 
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> I suggest that Mr. Aveline might write to Mr. Deveney and ask him 
> pointblank if he considers the said letters false and does he favor 
> REMOVING them as they will be removed, for example, in the 
> expurgated volume (edited by Mr. Jerome Wheeler?).
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> Food for thought.
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