Theos-Talk Archives (September 2006 Message tt00196)

Daniel,

Yes, thanks.  As I said earlier, CWL was "influential" by 1900, but G.N. Chacravarti was perhaps even more influential than him at that point.  

In any case, it was after 1900 that CWL got to be the "de facto inner head" of the Adyar TS, with the mayavic results which are well-known by now. 

The 1900 Letter wrote the story of Adyar TS mistakes in the 20th century, before that year even started.  

This is an INNER evidence on its authenticity. And the Esoteric Popery is still there. And the MESSAGE  of the Letter is still waiting to be accepted, and understood, and acted upon,  by the movement as a whole. 

On the other hand, the 1900 Letter has several important points in common with the Declaration of the United Lodge of Theosophists, ULT, which was issued in 1909.

There are nine years between 1891, when HPB dies, and 1900, when the 1900 Letter was sent to A. Besant.  

There are nine years between 1900 and 1909, when the United Lodge of Theosophists finally emerged.  Coincidence, or an inner  karmic rythm? 

One of the "cycles" mentioned in the Mahatama Letters is the 107 years Cycle.

The 107 years cycle of the "Last Farewell Letter" (1900-2007) shall be complete next year.   September 2007, I guess.  

This holds true for the first 107 years of the Aquarius era, which started precisely in the year that "Last Farewell" was given (according to HPB). So 2007 should be a significant year. 

Also, by 2009 we will complete the first 100 cycle since the creation of the ULT in 1909. 

Best regards,   Carlos. 


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Assunto:Theos-World A Possible Correction about the Reincarnation of HPB

> Carlos,
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> You write:
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> "Now, the specific issue which the 1900 Letter to A. Besant 
> addressed refers to the fancies that HPB was AT THAT PRECISE MOMENT 
> [caps added] in the very young body of Mr. Chacravarti's daughter." 
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> "In 1900, there were 'magic expectations' about that 'divine child'."
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> "Leadbeater was not the 'acting inner head' at the time. It was G.N. 
> Chacravarti."
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> Although I want to do more research on some of these points, I am of 
> the opinion that a few things you state are not quite accurate.
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> I don't believe that Mrs. Besant in 1900 STILL believed that "HPB 
> was...in the very young body of Mr. Chacravarti's daughter."
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> First consider what Gregory Tillett writes in his biography of 
> Leadbeater:
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> "In the summer of 1896 Mrs Besant, Leadbeater and Jinarajadasa spent 
> a holiday at the summer home of Mr and Mrs Bright at Shepperton on 
> the Thames; with them were Professor and Mrs. Chakravarti. Mrs. 
> Besant was at this time very much under the influence of 
> Chakravarti, whom she came to regard as a 'Master in the flesh', and 
> who had been her 'earthly plane' teacher for some years. She 
> believed, UNTIL LEADBEATER ENLIGHTENED HER WITH HIS OWN 
> INVESTIGATION ON THE SUBJECT, that H.P.B. had reincarnated as 
> Chakravarti's daughter, then three years old. As in life, so in 
> death, H.P.B. was to prove restless, and the vehicle of her alleged 
> reincarnation changed according to who was in favour at the time. 
> The daughter of the 'Master in the flesh' SOON lost her exalted 
> position [as the reincarnation of Madame Blavatsky.]...." caps 
> added. THE ELDER BROTHER, p. 65.
> 
> Dr. Tillett doesn't tell us HOW SOON the young daughter lost her 
> status as the reincarnation of HPB. 
> 
> But from what we find in THE THEOSOPHIST for May 1897, it must have 
> been sometime BETWEEN the summer of 1896 AND March 1897 that Mr. 
> Leadbeater "enlightened" Mrs. Besant with "his own investigation" of 
> Madame Blavatsky's reincarnation. Or was it Madame Blavatsky 
> who "enlightened" Mrs. Besant of her own reincarnation?
> 
> From the above issue of THE THEOSOPHIST, we gather that apparently 
> when arriving in New York City on March 18, 1897, Mrs. Besant told
> reporters:
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> "...Madame Blavatsky has been reincarnated in the person of a young 
> Brahman, now about nineteen years old...."
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> Mrs. Besant assures the reporters that "I knew from Mme. Blavatsky 
> of this reincarnation before it was consummated...." [!!??]
> 
> Compare this story of 1897 told by Mrs. Besant with what Mr. 
> Leadbeater said in 1917:
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> "Madame Blavatsky lives now in a masculine body, which she took 
> directly [after] she left the other one. When she left that body, she
> stepped into the body of an Indian boy then about fourteen years 
> old...." THEOSOPHY IN AUSTRALIA, Sept. 1917
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> So it appears that at least as early as March 1897, Mrs. Besant NO 
> LONGER believed that HPB had reincarnated as Chakravarti's daughter 
> but instead had reincarnated into "the person of a young Brahman, 
> now about nineteen years old...."
> 
> Another important point to make is that all readers of THE 
> THEOSOPHIST would have then known as of May 1897 what Mrs. Besant 
> was telling reporters in America about Madame 
> Blavatsky's "reincarnation".
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> What indeed was Mrs. Besant's initial reaction and thoughts 
> when she picked up the 1900 K.H. letter and FIRST read:
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> "The intense desire to see Upasika reincarnate at once has raised a 
> misleading mayavic ideation. Upasika has useful work to do on higher 
> planes and cannot come again so soon. The T.S. must safely be 
> ushered into the new century. You have for some time been under 
> deluding influences. Shun pride, vanity and love of power. Be not
> guided by emotion but learn to stand alone. Be accurate and critical 
> rather than credulous."
> 
> Daniel
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