Theos-Talk Archives (September 2006 Message tt00185)

Dear Carlos,

Barbara is right when she pointed out that my response was not  
addressing Gary's question on Atma and Buddhi, but on Atma-Buddhi- 
Manas. I was aware on that, and the reason was that I address the  
importance of the EGO in our spiritual development. Rather than agree  
or not whether Karma influences Buddhi and Manas, which both are  
universal principles.

The EGO suffers for the transgressions of the personality. Is that a  
product of the application of the law of Karma to the EGO, or a  
product of the law of Compassion and the law of Sacrifice ? That is  
what I see. If there is no Karma applied on the EGO, then, we have  
the universal laws of Compassion and Sacrifice being implemented.

Am I clear now?

Rudy

On Sep 11, 2006, at 11:10 AM, carlosaveline wrote:

> Just great, Barbara!!
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> I guess the meditation on and evaluation of the working of the  
> seven principles, especially the monad, and upper duad and triad,  
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> practical consequences of the highest importance...
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> Carlos.
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> Data:Mon, 11 Sep 2006 03:31:01 -0000
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> Assunto:Re: Theos-World Todays Question?
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> > Dear Gary & Rudy:
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> > This is my conjecture:
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> > I see the concept that Gary brought up is specifically on Atma-
> > Buddhi, the DUAD spiritual universal principle. On its OWN plane,
> > it is beyond karma and is not conscious of the lower planes. I
> > think this is an important point in Theosophy because this concept
> > separates Theosophy from and many other psuedo traditions. The
> > quote that comes to mind is from the Gita – Having pervaded this
> > whole universe with one fragment of Myself, I remain. ...
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> > In contrast, the quote from the Transactions is on Atma - Buddhi -
> > Higher Manas, the Spiritual Ego TRIAD. They are close but not
> > exactly the same. In a way, the Higher Manas is the link between
> > the duad and the lower. In Farthing's When We Die, the chart on the
> > last page shows, "Universal Principle, World Soul, Individual to
> > Man only by assimilated part of 5th principle."
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> > Warm regards,
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> > Barbara
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> > > Dear Gary,
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> > > If that is the case, how come that in Transactions it is said
> > that
> > > the Spiritual Ego pays for the transgressions of the personality.
> > > Isn't there a contradiction? To me the Spiritual Ego is very close
> > to
> > > Buddhi since it is Manas illuminated by Buddhi.
> > >
> > > Rodolfo Don
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> > > On Sep 10, 2006, at 7:54 AM, Gary Barnhart wrote:
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> > > > Dear Carlos,
> > > > Perhaps it may be beneficial to ask questions each day rather
> > than
> > > > present quotes. I am open to suggestions.
> > > > Today's question:
> > > > In ' The Key" HPB said that "atma and buddhi are beyond karma
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> > > > are not conscious on this plane." What does this mean ?
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> > > > Gary B.
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