Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00660)

Dear Mark, Dear Friends, 

There are always exceptions to rules, as the Masters wrote in the Mahatma Letters. 

Anthony de Mello was certainly one of them. 

In HPB's time there was also a  (Catholic) Bishop who was a theosophist-at-heart.  I guess HPB writes about that in "Isis".

In London, in her last days, there was a Catholic lady who was a Theosophist and a  lay disciple.

Eliphas Levy WAS a lay disciple and he never really broke off from Christian  circles, although he was persecuted by the Vatican. 

Cardinal de Cusa is a classical exemple of a high priest and a true Occultist -- HPB wrote about that in clear terms. 

That's why an OPEN MIND is so important --  and one of the first "steps" in the Golden Stairs,  I guess. 

Anthony de Mello is, no doubt, a theosophist in my view: inter-religious, universally fraternal, a talented writer and persecuted for his non-sectarian views. 



Regards,  Carlos. 










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Data:Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:08:38 -0700 (PDT)

Assunto:[Spam] Theos-World Re: Jesuit Philosophers

> Re: Jesuit "philosophers"
> 
> 
> Carlos writes:
> 
> 
> 
> priest. Rather a 
> by the Vatican through J. Ratzinger, now 
> 
> 
> 
> There may be a few on that side of things that
> come
> out allright, but one really wonders if they have any
> honesty and insight, how in the world they get caught
> up in a Personal God scheme. If they are bright
> enough
> to see through it, they have to be phonies to stay in
> the
> organization. There's quite a few of "the others" of
> this
> type that know all the right words to mouth on
> "brotherhood"
> and esoteric philosophy, but something just doesn't
> ring
> true about what they are saying - they are good
> imitators.
> I watched part of a catholic service on TV this
> morning, 
> and find it really amazing at all the hypnosis and
> self-hypnosis 
> going on to keep reinforcing the external god idea. 
> The priest, 
> however, seemed sincere, and probably really believes
> what
> he's saying himself. As I think (?) it says in the
> Maha-cohan
> Mahatma Letter, they permanently (?) warp their minds
> by forcing themselves to believe something their own
> mind
> rebels against instinctively, or rationally, and damn
> their own
> souls to that extent. There's many that do honest
> good work
> regardless, separate from the dogma.
> 
> 
> Below is an article from Blavatsky Net (there's a
> second part)
> on the real attitude of official Catholicism to
> Blavatsky.
> 
> - jake j.
> 
> 
> POPE TO CONDEMN BLAVATSKY? (1998)
> 
> An article entitled "ENCYCLICAL ON THE NEW AGE MIGHT 
> BE COMING SOON" by Farley Clinton, was published in
> the 
> May 21, 1998 issue of THE WANDERER (Vol. 131, No.21).
> It's 
> author, Rev. Farley Clinton, is the Vatican
> correspondent to 
> THE WANDERER. His article is based on another one
> which 
> appeared in L'OSSERVATORE ROMANO, the official Vatican
> 
> City State newspaper.
> 
> Some background: the encyclical by Pope John Paul II
> on 
> the New Age, Madame Blavatsky, the Masters, etc. has
> not 
> been issued yet but is imminent. Before an encyclical
> is 
> issued, L'OSSERVATORE ROMANO usually "preps" the 
> faithful by having introductory articles appear in its
> pages first.
> 
> 
> What is significant about this encyclical is that it
> will be the 
> first time a Pope has spoken officially about
> occultism and 
> its various ramifications. We can already get the
> general gist 
> of what the Pope will say from the article in THE
> WANDERER. 
> It will be interesting to finally read the Papal
> document itself.
> 
> 
> So here is the article:
> 
> 
> 
> ENCYCLICAL ON THE NEW AGE MIGHT BE COMING SOON 
> by Farley Clinton
> 
> 
> Vatican City. The long-expected encyclical from Pope
> John 
> Paul II about the problem of the New Age movement
> today 
> may appear fairly soon, as a serious article in 
> L'OSSERVATORE ROMANO on May 7th reflects a desire to 
> instruct the faithful clearly regarding this subject.
> 
> 
> It points out five central Christian beliefs that are
> strongly 
> denied and attacked in the propaganda of the
> fashionable 
> books inspired by this movement:
> 
> 
> 1) The existence of a Creator
> 2) The reality of prayer to God, a meeting of two
> persons, 
> which should have the character of adoration, of
> petition, of 
> thanksgiving offered by the creature to the Creator,
> and is 
> certainly not mere self-discovery.
> 3) The reality of human sin and the need of a
> Redeemer.
> 4) The significance of suffering and of death
> 5) The necessity of love and of work, not mere
> thought, to 
> change the world.
> 
> 
> Contradicting Christian belief, the New Age literature
> tends 
> more or less to identify God with the world, or to
> make the 
> world a necessary emanation from God, not His free
> creation. 
> It knows nothing of the prayer of a creature and a
> sinner. It 
> proposes "meditation" that is a totally alien kind,
> not 
> reconcilable with Christian faith.
> 
> 
> Christians believe in original sin and in the
> sinfulness of all 
> of us, consequently they cannot share in the New Age
> hope 
> that some sort of technique, or concentration, or
> union of 
> millions of consciousnesses, can save man. They
> believe 
> in the one Way of salvation, Christ the Son of God
> made 
> man and introduced into history in order to save man.
> 
> 
> The followers of the New Age are led not to accept 
> suffering and death but to place their hopes in
> expanding 
> consciousness, in rebirth, and in techniques believed
> to 
> achieve these goals, while Christians believe in the
> power 
> of suffering in union with Jesus Christ crucified. For
> 
> Christians, death is a unique event, not an entry to
> one of 
> a series of reincarnations or spiritual
> journeys but the necessary step to enter eternal life.
> 
> 
> The article in L'OSSERVATORE ROMANO, written by 
> Teresa Osorio Goncalves, traces the origins of this 
> popularization of old Oriental religions to the work
> of 
> occultists in Europe and America in the last century. 
> Madame Blavatsky and her Theosophical Society, founded
> 
> in New York with the aid of a spiritualist in 1875,
> have 
> had great influence in leading persons from Christian 
> countries to reject the Gospels entirely in favor of
> some 
> approach to Hinduism, Buddhism, or another heathen
> religion.
> 
> 
> The rejection of God is central to the movement. 
> Madame Blavatsky especially rejected God whom she 
> called the "masculine" God, of Israel, of
> Christianity, 
> and of the Muslims.
> 
> "She proposed a return to Hinduism with its cult of a 
> mother goddess and its practice of feminine virtues. 
> Feminists action was to be continued in the
> Theosophical 
> Society under the guidance of Annie Besant, a figure
> in 
> the forefront of the feminist movement."
> 
> 
> This modern occultism is difficult to pin down to
> definite 
> beliefs since it expresses itself in many different
> movements. 
> But according to Goncalves, there are six teachings 
> encountered constantly, as they are the central belief
> 
> of the movement.
> 
> 
> 1) The world is seen as one organic whole.
> 2) But it is animated by an Energy which is more or 
> less like God.
> 3) There are spiritual entities acting as mediators 
> to man.
> 4) Man by spiritual exercises can control his life
> beyond 
> death.
> 5) There is a "perennial wisdom" which precedes every 
> religion and every culture and is superior to every
> religion.
> 6) There are "enlightened" spiritual masters one
> should follow.
> 
> The encyclical in preparation will probably be the
> first, 
> certainly the most thorough, major document from the 
> Church to address the thirst, or the craze, for
> Eastern 
> spirituality, although the phenomenon is almost 125 
> years old in New York.
> 
> 
> But false spiritualities linked to the heresies of
> Quietism 
> and Jansenism flourished a century or more before
> being 
> censured in Rome, as was the case with other errors.
> -----------------------
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> priest. Rather a 
> 
> through J. Ratzinger, now 
> 
> 
> 
> more. Why not? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Said the Master to the businessman: "As the fish
> perishes on dry 
> 
> world. The fish must 
> 
> > 
> > The businessman was stunned. "Must I give up my
> business and go into 
> a monestery?"
> > 
> > "No,no. Hold on to your business and go into your
> heart."
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