Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00373)

Dear Friends:

There is a war going on with terrorists that would like to destroy  
the west. Every time that they communicate with us they talk about  
the situation in Palestine that has been going on for a long time.  
Now, I would like to refer to you an article written by a  
theosophist: Abraham Oron who is president of the Tel Aviv lodge in  
Tel Aviv.

http://www.teosofia.com/downtrodden.html

I don't agree with the opinion that if you don't agree how the  
Israeli government interacts with its neighbors, or, with the people  
who live in the occupied territories, you have to be considered a  
Nazi or an anti-semitic. We live in a democracy and we have the right  
to disagree and to form our own opinion, even about our own  
government. The same about a country which is in the Middle East.

These are very dangerous times. Sixty years ago when something  
happened in the world it was covered by the newspapers and maybe the  
radio. Now it is different. When a war starts, everybody see it  
happen through TV and the Internet. People can form their own opinion  
if they see and read the FREE media. If they really care they will  
find out what it's going on. The old adage: "you can fool some of the  
people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the  
time," becomes a reality.

My advice to my fellow men everywhere is that the world is a village  
and we have to be sensitive to all our neighbors, particularly if  
these neighbors are poor, dispossesed, the downtrodden, like in the  
article by Oron. We should learn how to relate to them, speak their  
language, extend our friendly hand. If they want to destroy us, then,  
learn how to convince them that we are not. It is the old system of  
relationship: diplomacy instead of bullets and bombs.

My heart goes to the people of Palestine, Gaza, Lebanon, and of  
course Israel. I wish them the best.

Rodolfo Don




On Aug 11, 2006, at 6:34 AM, logos_student2000 wrote:

> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, leonmaurer@... wrote:
> >
> > More emotional propaganda favoring only one side of the conflict
> in the
> > Middle East.
> >
> > War is hell wherever it occurs, for all those involved in it.
> It's a sure
> > thing that the pictures of innocent civilians (of every ethnic or
> religious
> > group) killed by the fanatic Hamas terrorists and Hezbollah
> rockets in Israel are
> > just as gruesome, if not more so.
> >
> > It's interesting that the Israelis mourn the inadvertent civilian
> deaths in
> > the countries of those that attacked them mercilessly with intent
> to
> > genocidally exterminate an entire ethnic group, and who cowardly
> use those civilians as
> > shields, so as to protect themselves, as well as generate such
> propaganda
> > whenever they are attacked and unavoidable non combatant deaths
> and injuries occur
> > ... While the Muslim supporters of Hezbollah and Hamas in those
> countries
> > joyfully cheer the deaths of all innocent civilians of any other
> belief or
> > nationality they consider to be Infidels.
> >
> > It's evident that the Neo Nazis are taking advantage of this
> unfortunate but
> > inevitable conflict to justify their vicious anti Semitism based
> on blanket
> > generalities and outright lies.
> >
> > LM
> >
> >
> >Dear LM,
>
> First let us be clear that the civilian non-combatants in Israel are
> innocent victims, just as are the civilian non-combatant in
> Lebanon. You mentioned that
>
> "....while the Muslim supporters of Hezbollah and Hamas in those
> countries joyfully cheer the deaths of all innocent civilians of any
> other belief or nationality they consider to be Infidels".
>
> I find this statement simply untrue and rather 'seemingly'
> ignorant. If you want to paint all Muslims with the same brush as
> people who would do this, you must also be getting all your news
> from Zionist run media, see? You also forgot about all the
> Christians and Jews who seem to "blend in" just fine with all the
> Muslims being murdered in Lebanon.
>
> I find your response interesting in that you mentioned "Neo Nazis"
> taking advantage of the terrible circumstances of war. So…. who now
> speaks for Lebanon, Fox News, CNN, and Sky? Let us suppose that the
> events (as presented) in the links Frank provided are in fact true.
> Are we now supposed to shun any supposed "Neo-Nazi" for speaking the
> truth by showing us the horrors of war in Lebanon? Certainly you
> failed to mention how the Neo-Zionists (in Washington and London)
> who told Israel to invade Lebanon are as bad as the supposed "anti-
> Semitic Neo-Nazi's" showing us some pictures of a nation being
> invaded by a known terrorist state?
>
> I understand you think Hezbollah are terrorists and you called
> them "…..cowards using civilians as shields." Dear LM, are you not
> aware that this information was proven false and that in fact
> Hezbollah has not been doing this? I also wonder where are
> Hezbollah to stand? Perhaps, they should stand still in the middle
> of an empty street and place a giant "X" on themselves? Perhaps,
> they would much rather fight from inside their homes – if they still
> had any left!
>
> You also mentioned Hezbollah "…..generate such propaganda whenever
> they are attacked and unavoidable non combatant deaths and injuries
> occur". I wish to ask you now: What do you suppose Hezbollah was
> doing before their country was first invaded and did they even exist
> before that time?
>
> Logos_student
>
>
> 



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