Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00242)

Dirk and I more or less see eye to eye with respect to the zero-point energy 
fields... Although his unique interpretation of the physics differs from and 
goes much deeper and closer to explaining consciousness than the conventional 
QFT or Superstring/M-theory views and their simplistic analogies.   In fact, my 
ABC concept of the initial coenergetic fields subsequent to the big bang and 
during inflation prior to the breaking of symmetry at the fourth iteration, 
sees the initial 3 fractally involved coenergetic fields of consciousness that 
emanate from the spinergy of the absolute zero-point of universal origin -- 
which continues to inhabit the zero-point vacuum that is everywhere -- being of 
the nature of the BE-condensate.   But that isn't the locale or source of 
conscious qualia or awareness and will (which are the qualities and functions of 
the zero-point itself) but are, as you say, simply the "medium of consciousness" 
(i.e., the mind and memory fields that carry as interference patterns on 
their surfaces, the holographic sensory images that are the contents of 
consciousness). This, of course, corresponds closely with Dirk's analogy that the "
observable universe is like a mass of ice on top of the water waves of an ocean."   
(My physics mentor and collaborator, the late Dr. PSP, described it 
analogously as "simply a spherical blanket of near infinite diameter knitted with two 
parallel tensile threads of opposite polarity and zero diameter, having on its 
apparently 'flat' surface countless wrinkles of all sizes, shapes, and degrees 
of complexity and permanency." :-)

Leon


In a message dated 8/3/06 10:28:00 AM, yanniru@netscape.net writes:


> Interesting that you refer to the BE-condensate as a zero-field phenomenon. 
> The BEC is what I claim to be the medium of consciousness in the brain. This 
> is the first correlation with Len's zero-point field that I am aware of. 
> Perhaps Len could comment
>   
>  Richard 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dirk Laureyssens <dirk@hollywood.org>
> To: MindBrain@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 02:25:19 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Mind and Brain] Article: University Of Leicester Leads 
> International Study With Potential That Is 'Stuff Of Science Fiction'
> 
> Zero-point energy (a better definition would be imo zero-field energy) is 
> chaotic background energy, not manifested.  Consciousness has to do with values 
> given within a frame of reference, which means that somewhere there are 
> fixation or knotting of background dynamic energy. 
> 
> Quantum uses a very poor and simplistic analogy: "A useful analogy is to 
> consider our observable universe as a mass of waves on top of an ocean, whose 
> depth is immaterial."
>  Better and more logic would be:  The zero-field energy is like a mass of 
> waves of an ocean, and on top are some spots of ICE, and with ice we can build 
> igloos and skyscrapers, and in ice we can carve "information". Events like 
> "virtual particles, BE-condensates and Casimir effects" are manifestations of 
> that zero-field energy, like that ice on the ocean water. Both are H2O, but 
> ice having basic 'structure', thus building blocs to construct larger 
> structures. In example: If the virtual particle disappears again, it's like ice 
> transforming again in liquid. But if the virtual particle stays, it become a 
> fundamental particle (photon, electron, quark, etc), which can build up with other 
> particles to atoms, molecules, etc. 
>  So our observable universe is like a mass of ice on top of the water waves 
> of an ocean. 
> 
> dirk
> 
> On 02 Aug 2006, at 22:16, Pay_the_Piper wrote:
> 
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> 
> I have to agree with former astronaut and physics professor Brian Oleary 
> when he titles his book, "Miracle in the Void". It fits my definition of 
> miraculous to have something come out of nothing.
>   
>  Any opinions though on the assertion in his book that zero point energy IS 
> consciousness?
>   
>  PtP
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Robert Karl Stonjek
>  To: Mind and Brain
>  Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:46 PM
>  Subject: [Mind and Brain] Article: University Of Leicester Leads 
> International Study With Potential That Is 'Stuff Of Science Fiction'
> 
> Fantastic Voyage: University Of Leicester Leads International Study With 
> Potential That Is 'Stuff Of Science Fiction'
>  The University of Leicester is leading a three-nation consortium in a 
> 'fantastic voyage' to explore empty space - with potential benefits that have only 
> been explored in the realms of science fiction.
>  The study aims to delve into a 'void' or empty space in which atoms move, 
> which has a large intrinsic energy density known as zero-point energy.
> 
> Recent investment by the University of Leicester in the Virtual Microscopy 
> Centre and the Nanoscale Interfaces Centre has put the University in a key 
> position to take a lead in Casimir force measurements in novel geometries.
> 
>  The Casimir force is a mysterious interaction between objects that arises 
> directly from the quantum properties of the so-called 'void'. Within 
> classical Physics the void is a simple absence of all matter and energy while quantum 
> theory tells us that in fact it is a seething mass of quantum particles that 
> constantly appear into and disappear from our observable universe. This 
> gives the void an unimaginably large energy density.
> 
>  The research team carrying out this work has received a grant of 800,000? 
> from the European framework 6 NEST (New and Emerging Science and Technology) 
> programme to lead a consortium from three countries (UK, France and Sweden).
> 
>  The programme, entitled Nanocase, will use the ultra-high vacuum Atomic 
> Force Microscope installed in the Physics and Astronomy Department to make very 
> high precision Casimir force measurements in non-simple cavities and assess 
> the utility of the force in providing a method for contactless transmission 
> in nano-machines.
> 
>  Chris Binns, Professor of Nanoscience at the University of Leicester 
> explained: "The research will help to overcome a fundamental problem of all 
> nano-machines, that is, machines whose individual components are the size of 
> molecules, which is that at this size everything is 'sticky' and any components 
> that come into contact stick together. If a method can be found to transmit 
> force across a small gap without contact, then it may be possible to construct 
> nano-machines that work freely without gumming up.
> 
>  "Such machines are the stuff of science fiction at present and a long way 
> off but possible uses include the ability to rebuild damaged human cells at 
> the molecular level.
>  "In a sense the actual value of the zero-point energy is not important 
> because everything we know about is on top of it. According to quantum field 
> theory every particle is an excitation (a wave) of an underlying field (for 
> example the electromagnetic field) in the void and it is only the energy of the 
> wave itself that we can detect.
> 
>  "A useful analogy is to consider our observable universe as a mass of 
> waves on top of an ocean, whose depth is immaterial. Our senses and all our 
> instruments can only directly detect the waves so it seems that trying to probe 
> whatever lies beneath, the void itself, is hopeless. Not quite so. There are 
> subtle effects of the zero-point energy that do lead to detectable phenomena in 
> our observable universe.
> 
>  "An example is a force, predicted in 1948 by the Dutch physicist, Hendrik 
> Casimir, that arises from the zero-point energy. If you place two mirrors 
> facing each other in empty space they produce a disturbance in the quantum 
> fluctuations that results in a pressure pushing the mirrors together.
> 
>  "Detecting the Casimir force however is not easy as it only becomes 
> significant if the mirrors approach to within less that 1 micrometre (about a 
> fiftieth the width of a human hair). Producing sufficiently parallel surfaces to 
> the precision required has had to wait for the emergence of the tools of 
> nanotechnology to make accurate measurements of the force."
> 
>  The new instrumentation at the University of Leicester will enable 
> researchers to extend measurements to yet more complex shapes and, for the first 
> time, to search for a way to reverse the Casimir force.
> 
>  This would be a ground-breaking discovery as the Casimir force is a 
> fundamental property of the void and reversing it is akin to reversing gravity. 
> Technologically this would only have relevance at very small distances but it 
> would revolutionise the design of micro- and nano-machines.
> 
>  The Nanocase partner institutions are: University of Leicester Department 
> of Physics and Astronomy, UK (lead institution); University of Birmingham, 
> UK; Université Pierre et Marie Curie, France; Linköping University, Sweden.
> 
>  Source: University of Leicester
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/060630083135.htm
>  Posted by
> Robert Karl Stonjek
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