Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00231)

Jake,

Thanks. Good to know. 

I guess in the first long letter to A. O. Hume, one Mahatma recommends the exercise of recognizing the influence of the Collective Work of rthe Mahatmas in the thinkers along the last 2000 or 3000 years. 

Lucius Seneca, Epicurus, Epictetus, Cicero and many others, like -- surprisingly -- Piotr Kropotkin, or Cardinal de Cusa and Picco dela Mirandola, brought the theosophical energy into the human scenario.  

The exercise of reading theosophists who are NOT members of any theosophical group is very good to open one's mind and intuition. And thus one sees the Masters work in many kinds  of ways and no group or institution has any "exclusivity" whatsoever.   


Regards,  Carlos. 






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Assunto:Theos-World Ever read Carlyle?

> Ever Read Carlyle?
> 
> Thomas Carlyle (1795-1881) is a great 
> example of a natural born theosophist and 
> someone "taught from within," I think. His 
> books are full of Theosophy-like observations 
> of humanity, and especially the idea of karma 
> in the actions of nations and people, although 
> I doubt he ever used the term or knew it. 
> Blavatsky quotes him in a few places. He grew 
> up on a farm in Scotland and later moved to 
> London where he spent most of his life. 
> 
> His first book "Sartor Resartus" is a 
> fantasy-fiction and full of genuine mysticism, 
> and I really wonder how someone in his cultural 
> times could have written such a thing. It is 
> about a genius-professor who developed a new 
> "philosophy of clothes", and is full of such 
> subtle statements as this, (which is good for 
> internet talk-groups):
> 
> "...Thought without Reverence is barren, 
> perhaps poisonous; at best, dies like cookery 
> with the day that called it forth; does 
> not live, like sowing, in successive tilths 
> and wider-spreading harvest, bringing food 
> and plenteous increase to all Time."
> 
> Curiously, without America's Ralph Waldo 
> Emerson, Carlyle may have never developed as 
> a writer, other than some magazine pieces. 
> Out of the blue, more or less, Emerson took 
> the long journey to meet Carlyle, and got his 
> Sartor Resartus publised in the US, as he 
> couldn't get it published in book form in 
> England. Emerson was his publicist at no 
> cost and got several of Carlyle's later books 
> published in the US, even putting up the 
> money himself, and Carlyle became popular 
> in England because of his success in the US. 
> (The long Emerson-Carlyle correspondence in 
> 2 vols. is on gutenberg.org)
> 
> Emerson did this type of thing and one 
> wonders where his inspiration to do it came 
> from. Emerson, not rich himself, had a whole 
> circle of Transcendentalists around him who he 
> supported psychologically and even financially. 
> Thoreau, who got his income from his family's 
> pencil-factory, also made a living doing 
> odd-jobs for Emerson and others. Thoreau's 
> Walden Cabin and Walden Pond was on Emerson's 
> property, given free use of.
> 
> Most of Carlyle's work other than Sartor 
> is in History. His "The French Revolution" 
> is regarded by some as the best piece of 
> prose writing in the English Language. 
> (Better get out your 20-pound dictionary 
> to read it.) He finished about half of the 
> huge "French Revolution" and gave the 
> manuscript to a friend to comment on. 
> The friends servant mistaked it as scrap 
> paper and burned it in the fireplace! 
> (Some think the friend's jealous wife did 
> it.) After recovering, Carlyle started 
> all over from scratch and re-wrote it.
> 
> - jake j.
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