Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00079)

Marie,

Thanks for your emotional message below.

Perhaps my frankness raises some of your semi-conscious frustrations. 

Perhaps you do struggle to repress them in order to be "spiritual", and  
upon seeing someone who is open and frank about the difficulties of the movement, your efforts are defeated -- and you go for a personal "unkindness" which you thought was not your style. 

But your repressed feelings  of anger are welcome by me,  as I can see the nucleus of sincerity and kindness in your heart,  beneath your "sour" words. 

I am not a "possessor" of the truth, and I believe no one can be such a thing, not even Disciples, not even Adepts.  Evolved beings  can only "share" or "partake" Truth. Be part of it, according to the degree of their own development.  

As to me, I am but a seeker after it;  and all my conclusions are preliminary and subject to examination and change. 

I suggest you read my message "To Pedro Oliveira", sent a few minutes ago.   It might clarify a few things. 

It was not my intention to hurt your feelings. It was, and is, my intention but to share with my friends in Theos-talk my view of the movement, its difficulties, its lessons-to-be-learned, its possibilities in the future. 

Best regards,   Carlos. 


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Data:Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:35:51 EDT

Assunto:Re: Theos-World MARIE'S GENTLENESS

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> In a message dated 8/1/2006 5:19:51 PM Central Daylight Time, 
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> Bill,
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> I think I stated a fact. 
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> Marie got upset because Daniel was criticized. She did not get upset as long 
> as HPB was being slandered and Algeo. 
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> But, if Marie defended HPB, please let me know. I will be happy to correct 
> my mistake. 
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> Carlos, Friends
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> This is exactly what I and Bill and I believe Daniel as well are subjected 
> to. Things out of context, and statements made about people's state of mind, 
> etc as though these things were FACTS, and not just your humble opinion. 
> Please, do correct your mistake Carlos. I do not have to defend H.P.B. just because 
> I am sick to death of your harrassing, demeaning, deleterious, sophomoric 
> and egotistical stances.
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> If you want to know, I happen to believe that H.P.B. was a human being, the 
> best that the Mahatmas could find, but by no means perfect, as they 
> themselves have said. To what extent she was not perfect is not for us to judge. The 
> message that she brought is what I am all about, not the messenger. Though, I 
> wish I were one smidgeon as great as that great soul.
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> So, cease and desist with your personal assaults of Caldwell, Algeo, and 
> anyone else that does not agree with you. You have studied much, and that shows. 
> You used to be a TSA member, now disenchanted. I too am a disenchanted 
> member of the TSA. I have not left that Society because it is not about societies, 
> but about the work that they do. Imperfect, yes. But still, they are 
> spreading theosophy. I wish you would stick to spreading theosophy, Carlos. You are 
> very passionate and could raise the consciousness of many. I even appreciate 
> the concern you have about the truth. But do not believe for one minute that 
> you are the sole possessor of it.
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> Marie
> p.s. and even your subject line is full of temerity and judgement.
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