Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00009)

It appears hopeless Marie.

Carlos and others seem to have decided amongst themselves that Daniel is 
an enemy of their Theosophical Movement and so his ideas and his work 
must either be destroyed or brought into compliance with the  Movement 
as  it is understood by them. That you and I can easily see the 
hypocrisy of  their actions  will not deter them.

What I am learning here on theos-talk is that blavatskiosophists are 
willing to put blavaskiosophy before the ancient, perennial  and 
universal wisdom of theosophy.  They are willing to use whatever means 
necessary to defend the Blavaskiosophical Movement from anyone they 
perceive as an enemy -- including fellow Blavaskiosophists.  In my 
opinion, Carlos uses lies and innuendo to attack the integrity, 
character and motives of Daniel.  He may think he is justified in using 
these tactics because he believes that Daniel uses lies and innuendo to 
attack the integrity, character and motives of HPB and WQJ.  I don't see 
Daniel doing this at all.  What Daniel is doing is challenging Carlos to 
balance his thoughts within the contexts of other legitimate points of 
view.  Of course Carlos does not appear to believe that their are any 
other legitimate points of view and so when he is faced with one he 
begins to call Daniel names and run away.  He says that it is Daniel and 
KPJ and John Algeo and others who have the "same problem," but in my 
opinion it is Carlos with the problem.  It is the problem every zealot 
has.  They cannot understand, much less accept and promote, the 
legitimacy of any other point of view other than their own. 
I have disagreed, sometimes heatedly, with Daniel over the years.   I 
have often referred to Daniel's style as prosecutorial, but at the end 
of each exchange I have felt that we each learned something from the 
other.  I do not waste any effort disagreeing with Carlos because it 
appears to me that his thought processes are too rigid and too narrowly 
confined to allow for any broader theosophical movement whatsoever.  
However, I hope that Daniel will persevere in his efforts to share his 
understanding of theosophy and Blavatsky with the rest of us.  As for 
Carlos, I do not perceive Carlos as a prosecutor so much as a 
persecutor.  He attacks anyone by any means necessary who opposes his 
conclusions. 
Watch and see.


peace,


bill

Bruce recently helped me to see that what Carlos and others call 
Theosophy is really Blavaskiosophy.
carlosaveline wrote:
> Marie,
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> Derision of HPB and Judge -- is it OK with you?
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> Just asking, Carlos.
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> > > Carlos, for the umpeenth time I have seen this derision of Daniel. 
> You are
> > > so well schooled in bibliography and theosophy. Why don't you 
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> > > removes the Coulombs from the theosophical history books? Do 
> some"silent
> > > editing" and then tell us that you have done it. At least it will 
> be a
> > > beginning, a real action....for which we could all thank you.
> > >
> > > Please, Carlos, use your gifts for the spreading of 
> theosophy....not the
> > > spreading of derision and sarcasm. I am so tired of that.
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