Theos-Talk Archives (July 2006 Message tt00664)

Friends,

There is one thing I have in common with Krishnamurti,  HPB and many other  thinkers.  

It is that aggressive nationalism is part of the problem of collective hatred and mass propaganda, these two being  but practical tools used to prevent people from thinking for themselves. 

Nazism is "national socialism".  It is an aggressive variety of nationalism. Germany got far beyond that.

Many Jews -- like A. Einstein -- were and are Germans. German people is not Nazi.  In the last 60 years Germany built, or rebuilt,  one of the biggest and most advanced democracies in Europe.  

Italy, Portugal  and Spain also got way beyond equivalent forms of mass-murder dictatorships.  So A. Hitler, B. Mussolini, A. Salazar and F. Franco, four of the worst murderers in the 20th century, are a nightmare well situated in the past by now.  

The future belongs to the arising of social non-violence,  as a result of buddhi-manasic activity in the human minds and souls. 

The theosophical movement is an alchemical  laboratory for the future civilizations and their citizens.   The presence of one or two admirers of Hitler among us is a reminder that Democracy and Universal Brotherhood are things we must respect and preserve everyday, as dangers can renew themselves periodically.  


Best regards,  Carlos. 




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Data:Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:48:16 +0200

Assunto:Re: Theos-World LEADBEATER AND SEX

> The far bigger sin of Leadbeater was his aggressive anti-Germanism with invented stories etc.
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> Daniel was so kind to state here elsewhere Leadbeater's lie that he allegedly had found books in Germany speaking of military action against England or the like insane nonsense.
> He has had contact with dark masonic Lodges which openly expressed their wish since 1870 to exterminate the Germans (an aim which the Jews over their Pan-Europaen movement and Count Coudenhove-Kalerghi hope that they have nearly reached, as up to 35 millions from 80 millions are foreigners in Germany and Germans have become the minority in many areas).
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> Here we have one case of shizophrenia: I charge my victim to do my crimes and claim to the victim for myself.
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> At least Leadbeater's (and Besant's) anti-Germanism you, Carlos, have in common with him (them).
> That reminds me of the ULT position who cried aloud against Besant and Leadbeater, but are on the same level against the messengers of the Masters.
> How foolish! How can anybody outside take Theosophy seriously when he sees such flapdoodles.
> Frank
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> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:54 PM
> Subject: Theos-World LEADBEATER AND SEX
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> Friends, 
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> See Chuck's words below. 
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> In fact, History shows us that the misture of sex with Theosophy started with C. W. Leadbeater, who the central character of various sex scandals. He even was rightly expelled by the Adyar Society by H. S. Olcott, coming back as soon as Olcott died. 
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> The possible specific ways how CWL combined perverted sex with some most negative way of pseudopsychic investigations were investigated by Gregory Tillett in his book 'The Elder Brother'. 
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> Those who enjoy Leadbeater's taste can follow his example : yet this is absolutely far from being Divine Wisdom. 
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> Best regards, Carlos. 
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