Theos-Talk Archives (July 2006 Message tt00590)

Friends, 

The matter of the fact is that a great number of people, from different organizations, believe Daniel Caldwell is far from reliable as a compiler, or editor.   That  includes  many a member of the Adyar Society. 

Caldwell  himself admitted a few days ago he tampered with his oown book about HPB, failing to admit the "second edition" changed a whole lot more than the title.  But Caldwell only admitted that after Mark Jacqua brought the facts here. 

People as different as K. Paul Johnson, who does not believe in HPB or Theosophy, and the Canadian author Ernest Pelletier, an outstanding student of HPB, have this in common: Caldwell's work, or David Green's, or the work of any of his other alter egos, cannot be trusted.  The same seems to apply to the texts in his (or "their") websites.  

So the fact that Caldwell has been publicizing slanders against HPB and W. Judge,  or attacking theosophical groups under false names, is far from being isolated.

Best regardds,  Carlos Cardoso Aveline 




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Assunto:Theos-World Jake and his comments

> Jake,
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> You write:
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> "SILENT EDITING:
> I don't see how small changes such as
> de Zirkoff does in changing sanskrit spelling,
> can compare with big changes - as in Dan's
> recent book, of leaving out whole sentences
> or the like. Dan is lumping them in the same
> category, (which he knows they are not)
> JUST TO WIN THE ARGUMENT. This seems to be
> a thing with DC, he wants to win the argument,
> using logic, even though the spirit of the
> truth of the matter is lost along the way."
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> One of the things I find lacking in what you write
> above is that you are not specific.
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> You write about THE ARGUMENT..."the argument".
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> Exactly which argument? And more importantly what posting or 
> postings of mine are you referring to?
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> Are you referring to my posting at:
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> INVISIBLE EDITING: Judging 4 Works by Dallas' Definition
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/34770
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> In this posting I briefly discuss the de Zirkoff edition of HPB's 
> SECRET DOCTRINE.
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> Or is there ANOTHER posting of mine that you are thinking of??
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> I would really like to know that.
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> Then Jake you write:
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> "Dan is lumping them in the same category, (which he knows they are 
> not) JUST TO WIN THE ARGUMENT."
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> Here you seem to make two assumptions. First of all, you say I am 
> lumping them into the same category and I do that lumping .... JUST 
> TO WIN THE ARGUMENT. 
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> Thanks. Nice to know what I am actually doing!
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> But maybe I lump them into the same category because I REALLY do 
> think they belong to the same category.....and not just because as 
> you seem to claim I want to win the argument.
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> Or maybe there is another reason....
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> But I would suggest that all you write above is simply your 
> interpretation of what you think I'm doing. But you appear to write 
> as though this is as obvious as the fact that the sky is blue.... 
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> And as I mentioned in my previous email, your statement
> "which he KNOWS they are not" assumes that you KNOW what I know. 
> Please do not speak for me. You may deduce in your own mind that I 
> might know they are not, but please do not say that I KNOW something 
> which you have no direct way of knowing yourself (again unless you 
> can read my mind or unless I have stated such is the fact somewhere 
> in writing).
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> I find it quite disturbing when some Theosophists simply assume that 
> they KNOW what others are thinking or they know what others' motives 
> are. 
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> And I would suggest that ALL OF US need to be a little more careful 
> about our human tendency of projecting OUR thoughts, OUR 
> perceptions, OUR thinking onto other people....and then assuming 
> these projections are THE reality.
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> I could go on but will stop at this point.
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> Jake, what I 'm suggesting here is that..fine....feel free to deal 
> with my specific arguments concerning SILENT EDITING ... 
> disagree..fine..but please don't make statements about what "I know" 
> or about my motivations or intent and then palm them off as obvious 
> statements of fact.
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> But I guess you will do whatever you decide or want to do!!...
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> Later I will address some further points on SILENT EDITING.
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