Theos-Talk Archives (July 2006 Message tt00499)

HPB did not claim, she did not assert.  She made phenomena and dozens of persons who saw them gave their public testimonies. Apart from phenomena, dozens of theosophists had their own evidences that they were chelas and lay chelas of various Mahatmas. 

So say of that period (1875-1891) that "HPB claimed SHE was in contact with the Masters" is a LIE from anyone who studies the History of the Movement. 

It is not a question of "believing". It is a question of recognizing the fact the there are hundreds of evidences about Masters in those years. 


Regards,  Carlos. 


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Data:Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:09:59 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Re: "HPB'S CLAIMS"

> The word "claim" here is used in a very neutral
> way. 
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> One could say:
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> HPB claimed or maintained or asserted...
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> I personally think there is an abundant amount of evidence that
> her claims, her assertions were completely justified and true. 
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> For example, it seems to me that the testimony of H.S. Olcott as to 
> the existence of HPB's Master shows that HPB's claims or assertions 
> were true and factual:
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> http://blavatskyarchives.com/olcottandmahatmas.htm
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> Witness the testimony of others who gave evidence of the existence
> of her teachers:
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> A Casebook of Encounters with the Theosophical Mahatmas
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/mastersencounterswith.htm
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> In summary: I personally believe in the existence of HPB's
> Teachers. 
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
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> > Friends,
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> > In spite of what is said below, there were no " claims" about the 
> existence of Mahatmas in the period 1875-1891. There were hundreds 
> of evidences and dozens of personal and independent testimonies 
> coming from by H.S. Olcott, A.P. Sinnett, Damodar Mavalankar, 
> Mohini Chatterjee, Laura Holloway, Subba Row and many, many others. 
> > 
> > To try to reduce (in a Thesophical List) that impressive mass of 
> evidences to merely "HPB's claims" -- is to lie in the face of 
> theosophists. 
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards, Carlos. 
> > 
> > 
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> > Data:Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:58:28 -0000
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> > Assunto:Theos-World Various Theosophical Traditions and New 
> Students of Theosophy
> > 
> > > There are at least a dozen different Theosophical "traditions" 
> > > or "schools" based on the claims of various prominent 
> individuals in 
> > > the modern Theosophical Movement. 
> > > 
> > > There is the original claim of H.P. Blavatsky to be in contact 
> with 
> > > certain Adepts or Masters and to have transmitted in her 
> writings 
> > > the Theosophical teachings of these Adepts. 
> > > 
> > > But after H.P.B.'s death in 1891, we find numerous additional 
> claims 
> > > of contact with the same Adepts. 
> > > 
> > > Read more at:
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> > > http://blavatskyarchives.com/theosophicaltraditions.htm
> > > 
> > > Daniel
> > > Blavatsky Study Center
> > > http://hpb.cc
> > > http://blavatskyarchives.com
> > > http://theosophy.info
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