Theos-Talk Archives (July 2006 Message tt00394)

Dear Friends, 


Cass writes (see below) : 

"Funny, I thought that Occultism taught that there is no such thing as past and future other than reflections or projections, that all there really is, is the Now."

Well, Cass has just revealed her Krishnamurtian influence.  She is erasing the law of karma.  She is trying to cancel the past.   This is Krishnamurti. This may be Liberal Catholic Church, but this illusiohn was fundamentally brought into the movement by Krishnamurti.  Yet the law of causation, and of cause-and-effect, still rules life.

The Eternal Now includes past and present, with their results and seeds. From one Manvantara to another, through Pralaya, or from one week-time to another, Past Time is always most significant.   

All Buddhism, and all Theosophy, is about the law of karma.  And Karma Law teachings are present in every religion. 

The Krishnamurtian thesis that past the has no meaning is very convenient at the political level for those who want to avoid facing past mistakes. Yet in  the long run the policy of denial is not worthwhile. 


Best regards,  Carlos. 





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Data:Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:19:26 -0700 (PDT)

Assunto:Re: Theos-World PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE

> Funny, I thought that Occultism taught that there is no such thing as past and future other than reflections or projections, that all there really is, is the Now.
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> If we keep looking back to the past we will act in the past. Surely it is better to let go of the old ideas? If we live in the Now, we can create a new future. If we live in the past all we do is recreate it.
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> Terrorism is merely the religious virus propagating and multiplying itself over and over causing cancers in our morality.
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> Cass
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> carlosaveline wrote: Friends,
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> Past, present and future form a continuum, as Occultism teaches us.
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> Last week-end I delivered a seminar on Deep Ecology and Sustainable Development in the Building of the Next Civilization, in Belo Horizonte, a State Capital one hour by plane from Bras�lia. In my several books already published, I have discussed pretty much the future, as well as the present of our civilization. Yet we do need to understand the past in order not to repeat the same old mistakes. I usually discuss central elements in the acumulated experience of the last 2,500 years. 
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> Speaking of the interaction between past and present: the WWII, for instance, has more than one aspect to be understood yet. Look at the Gaza Strip, at Lebanon, and at Israel, right now, July 18. Present moment challenges involving Neo-Nazism, Terrorism and War has a lot to do with Theosophy as Theosophy is about compassion and planetary citizenship, and it is a decisive factor to open a way out of these obstacles. 
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> Having at least respect for the Messengers helps the connection between Mankind and the sacred sources of inspiration. Slandering them does the opposite. 
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> Regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline 
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> Data:Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:29:27 -0700
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> Assunto:Re: Theos-World to Cass (was HITLER, WWII, HPB AND GARIBALDI)
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> > Dear Cass,
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> > Your post caught my eye. You express something that occurrs to me 
> > often. In this cycle we have been given, at great personal cost to 
> > some very fine individuals, a chance to understand more about who we 
> > are and why we are here than humanity has ever been given before. We 
> > have developed the internet as a means of communication that has 
> > never been equalled, as far as we know, for its power to reach around 
> > the world, and we use this extraordinary opportunity to carp and 
> > cavil about petty and meaningless details, even indulging in endless 
> > speculation about the validity and authenticity of the messenger who 
> > brought the information. It seems like the very worst sort of 
> > squandering of energy, a thing warned against in all occult teaching.
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> > One can only assume that those who use this venue in such a way 
> > simply choose to align themselves with the group that tries to 
> > destroy any efforts toward progress and unity essayed by humanity. 
> > It's just the inevitable polarity of forces. Any progress toward the 
> > consciousness of the Unity of all life generates its opposite force. 
> > And everyone who goes along with their efforts at sabotage is simply 
> > subscribing to the old saw, "Better the familiar darkness than the 
> > unfamiliar Light." 
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> > All this is not really cause for concern, however. The forces of 
> > darkness cannot prevail. The can delay and obscure, but they only 
> > serve the purpose of helping the individual to come to a realization 
> > of the truth, that it is the Light, the realm of Love and Compassion, 
> > of Altruism and Devotion, that is real, and that all else is dust and 
> > ashes. 
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> > It behooves any who see past these continual efforts to throw mud on 
> > the finest offerings of humanity to redouble our efforts to live 
> > according to our highest ideals, to put the ancient teaching into 
> > practice in our daily lives, to generate centers of light for the 
> > benefit of those around us. We have fine examples in the lives of 
> > such luminaries as HPB, WQJ, and others, who devoted their life 
> > energy to the work given them from within. We really can make a 
> > difference. There are no little things. We never know when some 
> > trivial action of our own, unnoticed in the daily train of events, 
> > will be the one that will change the course of history. And those 
> > forces of darkness that make so much noise and confusion? they simply 
> > cease to have any power over us.
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> > Adelasie
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> > On 17 Jul 2006 at 19:59, Cass Silva wrote:
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> > > So what Carlos, the whole world is about to explode, people are
> > > loosing their lives and you want to dwell on something that is no
> > > longer important. Living in the past prevents people from seeing
> > > what's in the present. Cass
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