Theos-Talk Archives (July 2006 Message tt00242)

Carlos,

I like the way you think you know what I should
or should not be doing.

Like your wonderful advice to me:

"...start getting in touch with Theosophy -- a Divine Wisdom which  
could not have been given to mankind by a false person who 'faked 
phenomena' or 'invented Masters'."

How do you know if I have or have not got in touch with
Theosophy? Jesus, are you the custodian of Theosophy?? 

>From what I can tell, you haven't a clue about this as well as many
other things.

Or take your next gem:

"Where is your respect towards the Masters and HPB (I will not 
mention 'gratitude') if you keep publicizing libels which you KNOW 
are false?"

"A healthy feeling self-respect is enough for anyone NOT to do 
that." 

Here you go pontificating about respect and self-respect, blah, 
blah, blah as though you are the world's best expert on such 
subjects.

Does someone pay you by the word???  :)

When I first became acquainted with Theosophy, Blavatsky, etc., I 
wanted to know everything I could about it.  I remember many, many 
years ago writing to Walter Carrithers and asking for copies of the 
Coulomb pamphlet, etc. etc.  Here I was but a novice, a newbie, but 
Walter sent the material to me...he did NOT advise me not to read 
the material or lecture me on this that and the other.  He sent me 
the material.  I guess he thought I could read material for myself 
and make up my own mind!! 

My intention from day one was to find out everything about Theosophy 
and Blavatsky, go to the primary sources, study the material for 
myself, not allow someone to filter it for me.  Whether it was some 
theosophical claim, some theosophical teaching, some controversy 
about HPB, I wanted to study and think about this for myself.  That 
is not to say that I didn't listen to what others might have to 
say.  I did.  

In turn, for many years now, I have tried to collect all of this 
material together and I have started putting more of it online so 
others could have A CHANCE, AN OPPORTUNITY to do the same thing I 
did.....read, study, ponder....etc...come to their own 
conclusions...read the negative, read the positive...whatever they 
choose to read...........

I estimate that I have put online about 1/10th of the material 
available and plan to put even more and more of it online in the 
years to come.  Yes, both pro and con, controversial, etc.  

People can believe whatever they want about me.  You can spend the 
next 10 years telling people how bad I am.  I just don't care.  You 
didn't motivate me when I first started this journey and you 
certainly don't motivate me now....at least to stop with my 
projects!!!!  :)   ....if anything ...I must be doing something 
right....

You are one of the few Theosophists to ever try to counsel me and 
tell me what I know or don't know or what I should do or not do.

I have known a number of Theosophists....like Emmett Small, Grace 
Knoche, Walter Carrithers, Victor Endersby, Richard Robb, Dara 
Eklund, Virginia Hanson, George Linton, David Reigle, etc. etc.  All 
of them wonderful people and none of them ever displayed any of the 
qualities that you display on a regular basis on Theos-
Talk....Thanks to Parabrahman.  

I say all of the above and also at the same time I believe you are 
sincere and mean well.  But the world is a big place and there are 
different strokes for different folks. 

If I want advice I don't think I want your advice... I had much 
rather go directly, for example, to HPB's writings or to the Mahatma 
Letters.....

So thanks but no thanks.

Daniel
http://hpb.cc

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> Daniel,
> 
> The point raised by Mark can be seen as going beyond  the act of 
examining the letters in the British Museum.  
> 
> There are other ways to get in touch with the authenticity of 
Theosophy and of confirming it by ourselves, and Mark most certainly 
knows them.
> 
> By reading "The Secret Doctrine" and HPB's writings, or by 
studying the contents of "The Mahatma Letters", one can see by 
oneself that there is nothing false about Theosophy, or about HPB 
and occult learning. 
> 
> I guess the main point in the question raised by  Mark Jaqua is: 
instead of making propaganda (perhaps on a voluntary basis?) of the 
same old 19 century traitors and Judases, Algeo and you should start 
getting in touch with Theosophy -- a Divine Wisdom which  could not 
have been given to mankind by a false person who "faked phenomena" 
or "invented Masters".
> 
> 
> Where is your respect towards the Masters and HPB (I will not 
mention "gratitude")  if you keep publicizing libels which you KNOW 
are false? 
> 
> A healthy feeling self-respect is enough for anyone NOT to do 
that. 
> 
> Kindly think about that.  HPB as every Initiate, is a Mirror which 
reflects the state of the soul of the observer.  Respect for one's 
higher self leads to have respect for her and the Masters.   
>  
> 
> Best regards,  Carlos Cardoso Aveline 
> 
>