Theos-Talk Archives (July 2006 Message tt00177)

Daniel,

Thanks. People who get stuck in gossips cannot think in general, abstract or philosophical terms. There is a whole line of pseudo-scholarly attacks to Theosophy  dating from the 1884 SPR, and Sidgwick. These people attack HPB through "doubts" as a way to imply that Theosophy is a fraud. Your "doubting action" is part of it.  Different individuals have different degrees of identification with that line.  Individuals are but examples of that abstract, occult process. 

Regards,  Carlos Cardoso Aveline. 



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Data:Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:25:06 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Carlos: The "Unsolved Case" of HPB?

> Carlos,
> 
> What does Algeo have to do with the Barry/Santucci
> material?
> 
> Instead of writing for the nth time
> all the usual vague and nonrelevant stuff you write,
> you might instead write a letter to THEOSOPHICAL
> HISTORY and actually dispute with facts and reason
> some of the statements made in the article by
> Kerri Barry.
> 
> I plan to write a letter to the journal disputing some of the
> points made in the Barry article.
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Friends,
> > 
> > This very title is the best the enemies of Theosophy can 
> do: "Genius, Fraud, or Phenomenon?: The Unsolved Case of H.P. 
> Blavatsky" (see below). 
> > 
> > These guys can only keep repeating the old and proven lies, 
> ignoring all evidences that HPB was an honest woman, making 
> believe they do not know that they are slandering through doubting. 
> > 
> > The best evidence of HPB's innocence is "The Secret Doctrine" and 
> her other writings in the late 1880s.
> > 
> > The slanderers illuded many in 1884-1886, in the period BEFORE 
> her most important works. 
> > 
> > After that, it is enough to read THEOSOPHICAL BOOKS BY HPB to see 
> that the whore and liar they created out of their own mind/contents 
> is itself an entire FRAUD.
> > 
> > True scholars have Ethics. But look at the evidences of Algeo's 
> UNETHICAL editorial dealings, for instance. Evidences include 
> testimonies by P. Johnson, G. Tillett., etc. 
> > 
> > So, since "scholars" like Algeo and his friends do not have a 
> single evidence of what they circulate, all that they can do is to 
> publicize the DOUBT. 
> > 
> > To call HPB "an unsolved case" is what Algeo and others need, in 
> order to prevent thousands Adyar TS members from rediscovering HPB 
> and finally getting rid of Leadbeater. 
> > 
> > This planted "doubt" about HPB's decency and honesty also serves 
> the VATICAN, of course, since it prevents thicker slices of the 
> PUBLIC to discover THeosophy and HPB and hence help humanity in its 
> next steps. 
> > 
> > If Theosophy would be discovered by a wider public, the world 
> situation would improve -- this is clear.
> > 
> > Caldwell/Algeo Mission, possibly unconscious, has been to help 
> prevent it. 
> > I sincerely hope such a "mission" aborts sooner than later. It 
> would be a good news for humanity. 
> > 
> > The only "unsolved case" in this is: 
> > 
> > "Who, or what, is really behind such a curtain of lies? And what 
> about bribes, or fund-raising?" 
> > 
> > Some of the corporate interests involved I have already traced. 
> But there must be more. 
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> > Data:Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:31:27 -0000
> > 
> > Assunto:Theos-World Concerning V. Harrison's Report on HPB
> > 
> > > Just an hour ago, I received in the mail
> > > the latest issue of THEOSOPHICAL HISTORY:
> > > the April 2006 issue.
> > > 
> > > This issue contains an article titled:
> > > 
> > > "Genius, Fraud, or Phenomenon?:
> > > The Unsolved Case of H.P. Blavatsky"
> > > by Kerri Barry.
> > > 
> > > In the "Editor's Comments" Section of the
> > > journal, Dr. James Santucci devotes 3 pages
> > > of commentary about the article.
> > > 
> > > He writes in part:
> > > 
> > > "Although Mr. Harrison's conclusions have been accepted 
> > > without question by many Theosophists, Kerri Barry
> > > [in the above titled article]...raises the issue of
> > > Mr. Harrison's own methodology...."
> > > 
> > > In the course of his remarks, Dr. Santucci comments:
> > > 
> > > "Nonetheless, the question of forgery [concerning
> > > the Mahatma Letters] cannot be discounted."
> > > 
> > > Dr. Santucci concludes his remarks with:
> > > 
> > > "I therefore caution the reader regarding Mr.
> > > Harrison's work: it only increases additional
> > > doubt regarding the veracity of the Mahatma Letters."
> > > 
> > > Does the word "it" refer to "Mr. Harrison's work"??
> > > I assume so.
> > > 
> > > From a cursory reading of the article by Kerri Barry,
> > > it appears that one of the main
> > > points of the article is that the Mahatma Letters
> > > may have been written by Blavatsky while she was in
> > > "an altered state." 
> > > 
> > > There is much more to the article and my cursory 
> > > reading summary does not do justice to the article.
> > > 
> > > Interested readers may want to try to obtain a copy from
> > > Dr. Santucci.
> > > 
> > > His website is at:
> > > 
> > > http://www.theohistory.org/
> > > 
> > > Daniel
> > > http://hpb.cc
> > > 
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