Theos-Talk Archives (June 2006 Message tt00288)

Dear Dallas,

Excellent, thanks a lot!  Carlos. 


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Data:Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:17:27 -0700

Assunto:[Spam] Theos-World RE: do we need to reach the whole world?

> 6/16/2006 10:46 AM
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> Dear Doss:
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> I thoroughly agree with your thoughtful and insight-full observations
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> THEOSOPHY is for those that want it.
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> It cannot be forced on anyone.
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> It has one claim: To be an exposition of the basic and continually acting
> rules and laws of NATURE. 
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> We, and in the entire UNIVERSE, all live under those, but not all of us
> inquire into them and their worth.
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> They provide an insight into the progress of the MORAL UNIVERSE which runs
> on the basis of BROTHERHOOD - and this includes us all.
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> No one speaks for THEOSOPHY !
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> THEOSOPHY, is freely offered so that, as a science of honest observation and
> testing, as a philosophy of all life and living, it speaks for itself.
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> To be grasped it has to be understood. The immortal human Monad [all
> humans] has each reached the stage where those who are advancing themselves
> are able to perceive and reason cut the logic of the present and future
> situations. 
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> It has a very few concepts that are basic to it. Their interplay and
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> interlocking logic makes them useful as a basis for self-guidance in life.
> Our MINDS give us freedom of choosing.
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> Freedom has produced gradations of learning and responsibility in the
> Universe.
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> At root base we are RAYS of the same ONE SPIRIT. We are all brothers. We
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> are brothers to the atoms, to the grains of sand, to the grass, and to the
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> elephant and the ant. In each of these resides a Monad, and that contains
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> as one of its components a "Ray" of the same UNIVERSAL SPIRIT. 
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> To put it plainly we all LIVE IN the ONE GOD-SPIRIT.
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> This does away with all distinctions, and all concepts of difference,
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> isolation, superiority, anger, pleasure, retaliation, difference,
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> selfishness, etc... It unites us all into a living universal BROTHERHOOD.
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> It requires of us (as humans) the using of our ability to think about
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> fundamentals and to secure the ability to penetrate below effects to their
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> causes. 
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> For example. 
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> We all use electricity, but we do not know what it is. It can be generated
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> and channeled, but we still do not know WHAT IT IS. We all use FIRE, but,
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> what is fire? We note the effect of fire (or its lack) and we know how to
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> burn things, or insulate them. We deal with our own minds, but we do not
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> know what the MIND is. Nor are we very good at distinguishing a "desire"
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> from a thought.
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> What, for instance is motive ?
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> And that (Universal Brotherhood) is the first "Object" of the THEOSOPHICAL
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> MOVEMENT, i.e., to live our lives and direct our thoughts and deeds as if we
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> were trying to form a nucleus of Universal Brotherhood. 
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> This sounds vague, perhaps because we have been educated to think the
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> territorial imperative and an adversarial approach was the way of life. If
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> so, at the en of life what gain can we show? 
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> Look back into history. Whose memories do we esteem? The butchers of men,
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> the oppressors, torturers, and the conquerors, or those who try to make us
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> see we belong to a single family and are all brothers and sisters with
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> something far more powerful than a physical blood-brotherhood and heredity
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> kinship. Are religions and philosophies built on the sayings of tyrants or
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> of those who explained and enjoined the practice of benevolence and the
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> search for truth?
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> An understanding of the existence of the immortal MONAD in us, as in all
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> things demonstrates to our mind this concept and reinforces the sense of
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> tolerance.
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> The levels and hierarchies of working Sages, Magi, Wise Men, Mahatmas,
> Buddhas, Dhyan Chohans, etc...and Great overseeing Forces are many, but
> every ancient system (of religion or philosophy) speaks of these as facts.
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> Since Theosophy is at the root, and is the most ancient of all systems, let
> me offer: -- As I read and understand Theosophy, we have 
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> 3 FUNDAMENTAL PROPOSITIONS given in SECRET DOCTRINE I, pp. 14-19 to help
> us -- 
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> H P B says that they pervade the entire system.
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> 1. The Plan of the Universe in its evolution is a single plan. This
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> plan has been established back in the beginning of "time," and it continues,
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> and will continue into the foreseeable future. It is said that the Universe
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> as a whole reincarnates, and this Plan was handed down a very long time
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> back. And it has been carried on since then. The book The SECRET DOCTRINE
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> describes this in detail in Vol. I.
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> 2. All is logical, mathematically exact, and coherent. Law and laws
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> rule all beings and actions impartially. The "LAW OF KARMA" is the
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> appellation given in Theosophy to this one universal LAW.
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> It is briefly described as the Law of Harmony whereby all diversity, and
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> distortion is smoothed and readjusted to a superior direction. At the end
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> of LIGHT ON THE PATH will be found an illuminating essay on Karma. It helps
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> us to understand if we read and think about what is said there.
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> 3. No part, great or small, old or new, of the illimitable Universe
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> forgotten, or omitted from the Laws that guide evolution and individual
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> progress.
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> All living intelligent beings are interconnected. Theosophy uses the word
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> "Monad" to indicate these living, conscious units that fill the Universe.
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> Mankind, humanity stands at the mid-point in terms of intelligence between
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> "instinct," and "intuition."
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> Each Monad that has reached the human level has this confronting him/her.
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> The Masters of Wisdom met this challenge and passed it aeons ago. Yet they
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> remain to help us, their "younger Brothers." We owe the exposition of
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> Theosophy to Them and their sacrifice. [see S D I 207 -210]
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> 4. From The UNIVERSAL ONE SPIRIT, everything in its vast diversity
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> derived. [S D I 14-15]
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> 5. Potentially, every being has the capability of understanding the
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> whole complexity of the Universe of which it is a vital part.
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> Spiritual Knowledge (or Wisdom) is inherent, innate at the core, in the
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> essence of every being. " Look inward, Thou art Buddha ( the Wise)."
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> expresses this.
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> We are related to the "Masters." They were once "men" such as we are now.
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> They are our "Elder Brothers."
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> 5. Hence all living things (the immortal Monads) are related.
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> Brotherhood expresses this relation whether the level of learning be small
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> or great. We are brothers in potential, as well as in fact, to the atoms,
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> molecules, cells, and all the Masters, and other Personages, or structures
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> of and in the Universe. 
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> It is difficult to conceive of such a supreme UNITY
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> when our world is one of continual diversity and confusion. 
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> Our independent existence our consciousness, our Mind, ought to be 
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> adequate evidence of Spirit working through all levels of Matter. 
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> In our case, it becomes expressed as the Mind and the independent 
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> power of our free thought. The power to choose defines of progress into the
> future. 
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> Our present lesson is discovering what this right
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> thought and right choosing. are. ["Good" has been briefly defined as
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> obeying the Laws of nature.] We need to know and apply them.
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> 6. The pathways through which the Monads travel to the final goal
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> (called by some: "Sublime Perfection" for all) are many, and are determined
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> by their individual Karma -- the Karma of their own free choosing. Humanity
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> is always composed of such "free-choosers."
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> 7. Consciousness, awareness, "seeing along with," will be found to
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> a common factor for all beings, but the levels of achievement and of
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> perception to which the consciousness is self-raised are many and mark the
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> progress of and in evolution for every individual.
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> 8. An individual may experience and remember seeing the ALL -- and
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> later describe it as LIGHT, COLOR, SOUND. or a discussion with a PERSONAGE
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> of WISDOM. Such memories are stored and presented to the
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> waking consciousness in terms that it can understand. But they do occur.
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> Also they are never forgotten. They are evidence of the SPIRITUAL MAN
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> WITHIN.
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> These "illuminations" as experience, are interior. They will be found to be
> described in TRANSACTIONS OF THE BLAVATSKY LODGE (pp. 64 -76; or :
> BLAVATSKY: 
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> Collected Works (TPH), Vol. 10, pp 255 -265)
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> At night during deep sleep the personal consciousness {Lower Manas}
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> may confabulate for a while with its spiritual "brother," the Higher Manas
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> -- BUDDHI-MANAS. The Buddhi-Manas is interior to us and is a veil or
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> vase that enshrines the ATMA -- the RAY of the UNIVERSAL SPIRIT within
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> each of us. It is an experience akin to Samadhi or Turiya. (see Gayatri
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> verse)
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> Many have offered evidence of their memory of past lives.
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> The Responsibilities of advanced "Masters of Wisdom" are many and are
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> described in S D Vol. I.
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> I think it would be to our joint advantage to comment on these ideas.
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> Best wishes,
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> Dallas
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: M K Ramadoss
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:12 AM
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> Subject: Re: do we need to reach the whole world?
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> While Internet is a quantum leap in making info and support available for
> those who have access to it and are interested, in the near term, I do not
> see a dramatic increase in the number of people interested in theosophy and
> related matters. 
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> It provides info and help for those who are ready and
> seeking it. It it akin to my having a lot of books on theosophy and related
> stuff on my bookshelf and many many are the instances that no one passing by
> had any curiosity even to take one of them and look it. Some times I feel
> that even if I gave them one of them to keep, they are not even going to
> open it and will put it back in the bookshelf.
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> It seems to me that at this stage, few are ready for it. In the long term,
> however, I see a larger population in the world becoming interested and when
> they do, the information is there for them to access. May be that is the
> long term plan of those powers who are behind the development of modern
> communication advancements.
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> All we can do at this time is to encourage making theosophical material
> available on line and provide whatever little help and encouragement for any
> one seeking divine wisdom.
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> mkr
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