Theos-Talk Archives (June 2006 Message tt00189)

Friends in Theos-talk, 

(Copy to Leslie Price) 


Daniel  Caldwell (see below his posting) does know,  as many people  do, that the SPR never made any formal, corporate accusations against HPB. 

Therefore,  as a corporation, the SPR could never FORMALLY abandon those informal charges.

As the SPR's condemnation of HPB was indirect though substancial, so the SPR had to drop  all its charges also in an indirect  way.  That was done in a most clear and substancial manner, in 1986.  This  is well known. 

The issue is  that --completely  ignoring the historical events of 1986 -- John Algeo and Daniel Caldwell have been circulating the same old charges,  as if they had not been proven false and dropped by the very SPR.  

Walter Carrithers  and Vernon Harrison helped prove that the SPR charges against HPB were fictitious. 

Daniel Caldwel and John Algeo seem to be working in the opposite direction.

With all due respect for science, I ask: what do independent Historians do, when they KNOW that any given statement is false? 

They drop it .  Or  they will study it  as  a piece of fiction  and forgery; a forgery for a bribe; or a forgery  for a political purpose,  and so on.  

There must be, no doubt,  political reasons for keeping the circulation of accusations against the theosophical movement even AFTER they were admitted as FALSE by the very institution which made them in the first place. 

After Gregory Tillett's well-documented Biography of Charles W. Leadbeater, published in the early 1980s, the Adyar ritualistic power-structure --  entirely created on the foundations of Leadbeater's clairvoyant fancies --  would have to be abandoned. Their total lack of legitimacy is impossible to hide.

One way of preventing people from re-discovering HPB and the Masters' teachings and going beyond pseudo-masonry and other rituals,  would be to create a false image of HPB as someone located at the same moral level as Leadbeater.  

The problem is -- that it  is an obvious blow to the rest of the movement as well. 

At the occult level, everything is linked.  Besides,  perhaps 70 or 80 per cent of theosophists the world over are linked to the Adyar TS. 

So describing HPB as a person morally situated at the level ofC. W. Leadbeater is not only a false thing to say in itself.  It  is also a form to cause serious harm to the movement as a whole.  

Ms. Radha Burnier, president of the Adyar T.S. since 1980, does NOT support such an attempt. This is a significant positive fact. Ms. Burnier  does NOT share the line of action followed by her own vice-president,  Mr. John Algeo  
-- not to mention Daniel Caldwell.  

Ms. Burnier has respect for the  facts and facts show that HPB was a decent person.  She was an honest and courageous woman. She had a noble heart.  

True -- every western Sage who challenged Status Quo and threatened organized colletive ignorance -- since Pythagoras, Socrates and Seneca,   and including St. Germain, Giordano Bruno and Alessandro Cagliostro -- has been persecuted; often put to death.  

Thousands were tortured and killed in the last fifteen centuries. 

Things are improving, though, and in the case of HPB the SPR had the merit of making a frank and public self-criticism,  after only one hundred years. 

The patient work of a few dedicated independent researchers paved the way for that.   

If we look  at the facts, we can see that those who are now using the same old slanders to morally discredit Theosophy and the theosophical movement  are working AGAINST the tide of events.

Leslie Price, Michael Gomes, Jean Overton Fuller, Radha Burnier and others have clearly STAYED AWAY FROM from this ambiguous but insistent policy of circulating  libels as if they could be "probably true".

Readers in different countries and continents are  reacting against this adoption of proven falsehoods.  

A volume with the "Authentic Letters of H.P.B."  is now under preparation. Funds for that were easily made available thanks to generous offers coming from different quarters. There are other positive signs.  Inside and outside the Adyar Theosophical Society, more and more people are getting conscious about the importance of Ethics, and getting ready to defend the facts with regard to the honest, truthful life of HPB. 

One can only hope that John Algeo and Daniel Caldwell will re-think the whole issue and finally accept the central  fact that HPB was a brave soul; that she had a pure heart; and that she was a Sage of humanity.  

We are the ones to benefit from knowing that and acting accordingly.


Best regards,    Carlos Cardoso Aveline 


 





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Assunto:Theos-World Did the SPR abandon all charges against HPB???

> Did the Society for Psychical Research abandon all 
> charges against H.P. Blavatsky???
> 
> Yesterday I wrote to Leslie Price:
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> Dear Leslie,
> 
> ...I see that today on Theos-Talk Carlos Aveline
> writes:
> 
> "...the Society for Psychical Research, SPR abandoned
> all charges against HPB, precisely because they were
> evidently false and molre -- ABSURD."
> 
> I didn't know the SPR had a corporate view on this!
> 
> Did the legal governing body of the SPR vote on this
> and declare in some way or another that they disowned
> or abandoned the Hodgson Report, etc?
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> Mr. Aveline has written about this several times in
> the last few months on Theos-Talk.
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> I am not aware that the SPR has done this, are you?
> 
> If this is not true (what Aveline is writing), then
> 297 subscribers to Theos-Talk are being misinformed.
> 
> Are you willing to state the real facts about this
> issue on Theos-Talk?
> 
> Daniel
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> 
> Leslie Price was kind enough to reply and has given me 
> permission to post the following statement by him here 
> on Theos-Talk:
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> As one who has served twice on the SPR Council, and 
> who was involved in the arrangements for the publication 
> of Vernon's paper in JSPR April 1986, I can confirm 
> that the Society has no collective view on Theosophical 
> phenomena. The Council may have associated itself 
> to an undue extent with its 1885 Report, not least 
> in its later support for the Solovyoff translation. 
> But in publishing Vernon's paper, they did not at the 
> same time cancel the 1885 report - in the way that 
> for example, a scientific publication might withdraw 
> a discredited paper on human cloning. All the published 
> material - including the little known first and provisional 
> report of the SPR committee - remains available for study.
> 
> I have written previously on this [Theos-Talk] forum 
> (May 8 2003) about the major constructive significance of 
> Vernon's work. He made it possible for everyone to move 
> forward.
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> Daniel H. Caldwell
> Blavatsky Study Center
> http://blavatskyarchives.com
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