Theos-Talk Archives (June 2006 Message tt00044)

Yes, Cass this is a coplete other story what I can understand 
better, where HPB meaned the difference and did not give, or forget 
to explain.

Thanks to your friend Frater, 
good to see this explanation,
Christina







-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> Hello again Christina,
> I am sure my friend Frater, won't mind me posting this 
interpretation for you. Let me know if it helps.
> Cass
> The ABRAXAS square progresses in powers of '3' [is triune] as it 
relates to
>   time. [you say you are looking for the triune effect...]
>    
>   Center :         3 ^ 0 power  = 1 year
>                        3 ^ 1 power  = 3 years
>                        3 ^ 2 power  =  9 years
>   Total Square:  3 ^ 3 power  = 27 years [ the complete measure of 
the square,
>                                                            
diagonally, horizontally, and vetically
>                                                           minus 
leap years because squares are
>                                                            
generally constructed with whole integers.]]
>    
>   So it is triune in construction.  Conceptualize these time 
periods popping out like
>   an accordion, and you have a Step Pyramid.
>    
>   ABRAXAS has literal roots to Taurus the Bull [compliments of MPH 
(Br Hall)], the Age in which the Pyramids were built.  Taurus begins 
the Egyptian Zodiac with the Pleiades taking the lead...pominent 
today in another Pyramid which is also time
>   connected.
>    
>   In the ABRAXAS Square every two points in opposition in the 
geometric grid along  the same vector have  values both of which 
when summated / 2 [divided by 2] = 365...the
>   value of ABRAXAS [as determined by the Greek Gematra, Manly P. 
Hall, Secret 
>   Teachings of the Ages]. 
>    
>   That value resides at the center of the Square and in the 364 
combinations [along the vectors]  which tell us 365 times that 365 
is the 'Key' number to the 27 Order 
>   Radial [Solar] Square.
>    
>   As far as '78' is concerned, the summation series of not only 
the hours on the clock, but the 12 signs of the Zodiac,  12 in a 
Coven[ant] and those at the Last Supper [where the Grail] was 
supposed have been used = '78'.
>    
>   Where there's a Round Table, there you are most likely to find 
the Grail.   
>    
>   In the Greek Gematria...999 = WISDOM [Epistemon] = 9 + 9 + 9 = 27
>                                                                    
             = 9 x 9 x 9 = 729, the number .
>                                                                    
                of spaces in the 27 Order
>                                                                    
               ABRAXAS Square
>    
>   If you take the three 9's, have them share a common circle, and 
join them tail to tail, you create the Oversoul...the downward 
pointing triangle and
>   feminine component to the 6 pointed star.  You also create  
Triune
>   Clockwise radial motion....and the spiral effect of a Galaxy.
>    
>   Nice stuff you're adding to the board .... Alvaro !
>    
>    
>   'M'
> 
> 
> christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...> wrote: Dear Dallis,
> Thanks for your work,I shall see the Mahatma's for that too.
> I use the SD from TPH,Wheaton-Adyar-London large 
octavos;illustrated 
> with rare portraits; clothbound; fully indexed.1978/79 printed.in 
3 
> editions.
> I literary typed over what is standing on page 591
> 
> see under your writing:
> -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "W.Dallas TenBroeck" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 5/31/2006 4:59 PM
> > 
> >  Re:  Meaning of the double triangle
> > 
> > Dear Christinalee Stemaker:
> > 
> > You wrote:   "Can anyone give the answer to this: why HPB (SD 
591)
> wrote the
> > double triangle wrongly called  "Solomons seal",
> > 
> > What edition of the SECRET DOCTRINE do you use?.  There is in 
Vol. 
> II
> > 591[original 1888 SECRET DOCTRINE] some mention of relevant 
> symbology and
> > meaning.  But not the wording you use.  
> 
> Dallis, strange enough she used the words in my book: After she 
> explain the Indian Trimurti: 
> *** 
> For even in the exoteric rendering, the lower triangle with the 
apex 
> downward is the symbol of Vishnu, the god of the moist principle 
and 
> water ( Nârâ-Yana) or the moving principle in water(Nârâ); while 
the 
> triangle with its apex upward, is Shiva, the principle of Fire, 
> symbolized by the triple flame in his hand.
> It is these two interlacted triangles- wrongle called "Solomons 
seal"
> which also form the emblem of our Society.   see farther page 
> 592.which allinea I typed over before.
> 
> ***
> By this I don't understand why she mentioned this, for the 
solomons 
> seal have more meanings, not only the enneagram with 3 equalized 
> triangles in the circle, also there is a sign with this two 
> triangles.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > I think we all use and refer to the ORIGINAL 1888 Edition.
> ***
> Which I have.
> 
> Times ago you also could not find the  SOLAR  and LUNAR ,for MANAS 
> is double.
> Which she give explanation on page 495/6:Varius names for 
> initiations:
>   
> Lunar is lower manas(animal soul), and solar is the higher manas
> (human soul),which is towards Buddhi.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Here are a few references I have found:
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------
> > 
> >  Heptachord   - Lyre of Apollo
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > MAHATMA LETTERS [Barker], pp. 345-6  explains:
> > 
> > "Does your B.T.S. know the meaning of the white and black 
> interlaced
> > triangles, of the Parent Society's seal that it has also 
adopted? 
> Shall I
> > explain? ? 
> > 
> > the double triangle viewed by the Jewish Kabalists as Solomon's 
> Seal, is, as
> > many of you doubtless know the Sri-antara of the archaic Aryan 
> Temple, the
> > "mystery of Mysteries," a geometrical synthesis of the whole 
occult
> > doctrine. 
> > 
> > The two interlaced triangles are the Buddhangums of Creation. 
They 
> contain
> > the "squaring of the circle," the "philosophical stone," the 
great 
> problems
> > of Life and Death, and -- the Mystery of Evil. 
> > 
> > The chela who can explain this sign from every one of its 
aspects -
> - is
> > virtually an adept. 
> > 
> > How is it then that the only one among you, who has come so near 
to
> > unravelling the mystery is also the only one who got none of her 
> ideas from
> > books? Unconsciously she gives out -- to him who has the key -- 
> the first
> > syllable of the Ineffable name! 
> > 
> > Of course you know that the double-triangle -- the Satkiri 
Chakram 
> of Vishnu
> > -- or the six-pointed star, is the perfect seven. In all the old 
> Sanskrit
> > works -- Vedic and Tantrik -- you find the number 6 mentioned 
more 
> often
> > than the 7 -- this last figure, the central point being implied, 
> for it is
> > the germ of the six and their matrix. 
> > 
> > It is then thus . . . [At this point in the original there is a 
> rough
> > drawing of the interlaced triangles inscribed in a circle. -- 
> ED.] -- the
> > central point standing for seventh, and the circle, the 
Mahakasha -
> - endless
> > space -- for the seventh Universal Principle. 
> > 
> > In one sense, both are viewed as Avalokitesvara, for they are 
> respectively
> > the Macrocosm and the microcosm. 
> > 
> > The interlaced triangles -- the upper pointing one -- is Wisdom 
> concealed,
> > and the downward pointing one -- Wisdom revealed (in the 
> phenomenal world). 
> > 
> > The circle indicates the bounding, circumscribing quality of the 
> All, the
> > Universal Principle which, from any given point expands so as to 
> embrace all
> > things, while embodying the potentiality of every action in the 
> Cosmos. 
> > 
> > As the point then is the centre round which the circle is 
traced --
>  they are
> > identical and one, and though from the standpoint of Maya and 
> Avidya --
> > (illusion and ignorance) -- one is separated from the other by 
the
> > manifested triangle, the 3 sides of which represent the three 
> gunas --
> > finite attributes. 
> > 
> > In symbology the central point is Jivatma (the 7th principle), 
and 
> hence
> > Avalokitesvara, the Kwan-Shai-yin, the manifested "Voice" (or 
> Logos), the
> > germ point of manifested activity; -- hence -- in the 
phraseology 
> of the
> > Christian Kabalists "the Son of the Father and Mother," and 
> agreeably to
> > ours -- "the Self manifested in Self -- Yih-sin, the "one form of
> > existence," the child of Dharmakaya (the universally diffused 
> Essence), both
> > male and female. 
> > 
> > Parabrahm or "Adi-Buddha" while acting through that germ point 
> outwardly as
> > an active force, reacts from the circumference inwardly as the 
> Supreme but
> > latent Potency. 
> > 
> > The double triangles symbolize the Great Passive and the Great 
> Active; the
> > male and female; Purusha and Prakriti. 
> > 
> > Each triangle is a Trinity because presenting a triple aspect. 
> > 
> > The white represents in its straight lines: Gnanam -- 
(Knowledge); 
> Gnata --
> > (the Knower); and Gnayam -- (that which is known). The black-
form, 
> colour,
> > and substance, also the creative, preservative, and destructive 
> forces and
> > are mutually correlating, etc., etc. 
> > 
> > Well may you admire and more should you wonder at the marvellous 
> lucidity of
> > that remarkable seeress [Mrs. Kingsford], who ignorant of 
Sanskrit 
> or Pali,
> > and thus shut out from their metaphysical treasures, has yet 
seen 
> a great
> > light shining from behind the dark bills of exoteric religions. 
> How, think
> > you, did the "Writers of the Perfect Way" come to know that 
Adonai 
> was the
> > Son and not the Father; or that the third Person of the 
Christian 
> Trinity is
> > -- female? Verily, they lay in that work several times their 
hands 
> upon the
> > keystone of Occultism. Only does the lady -- who persists using 
> without an
> > explanation the misleading term "God" in her writings -- know 
how 
> nearly she
> > comes up to our doctrine when saying: -- "Having for Father, 
> Spirit which is
> > Life (the endless Circle or Parabrahm) and for Mother the Great 
> Deep, which
> > is Substance (Prakriti in its undifferentiated condition) -- 
Adonai
> > possesses the potency of both and wields the dual powers of all 
> things." 
> > 
> > We would say triple, but in the sense as given this will do. 
> > 
> > Pythagoras had a reason for never using the finite, useless 
> figure -- 2, and
> > for altogether discarding it. 
> > 
> > The ONE, can, when manifesting, become only 3. 
> > 
> > The unmanifested when a simple duality remains passive and 
> concealed. The
> > dual monad (the 7th and 6th principles) has, in order to 
manifest 
> itself as
> > a Logos, the "Kwan-shai-yin" to first become a triad (7th, 6th 
and 
> half of
> > the 5th); then, on the bosom of the "Great Deep" attracting 
within 
> itself
> > the One Circle -- form out of it the perfect Square, 
> thus "squaring the
> > circle" -- the greatest of all the mysteries, friend -- and 
> inscribing
> > within the latter the -- WORD (the Ineffable name) -- otherwise 
> the duality
> > could never tarry as such, and would have to be reabsorbed into 
> the ONE. 
> > 
> > The "Deep" is Space -- both male and female. "Purush (as Brahma) 
> breathes in
> > the Eternity: when 'he' in-breathes -- Prakriti (as manifested 
> Substance)
> > disappears in his bosom; when 'he' out-breathes she reappears as 
> Maya," says
> > the Sloka. The One reality is Mulaprakriti (undifferentiated 
> Substance) --
> > the "Rootless root," the. . . But we have to stop, lest there 
> should remain
> > but little to tell for your own intuitions. 
> > 
> > Well may the Geometer of the R.S. not know that the apparent 
> absurdity of
> > attempting to square the circle covers a mystery ineffable. It 
> would hardly
> > be found among the foundation stones of Mr. Roden Noel's 
> speculations upon
> > the "pneumatical body . . . of our Lord," nor among the debris 
of 
> Mr.
> > Farmer's "A New Basis of Belief in Immortality"; and to many such
> > metaphysical minds it would be worse than useless to divulge the 
> fact, that 
> > 
> > the Unmanifested Circle -- the Father, or Absolute Life -- is 
non-
> existent
> > outside the Triangle and Perfect Square, and -- is only 
manifested 
> in the
> > Son; and that it is when, reversing the action and returning to 
> its absolute
> > state of Unity, and the square expands once more into the 
Circle --
>  that
> > "the Son returns to the bosom of the Father." 
> > 
> > There it remains until called back by his Mother -- the "Great 
> Deep," to
> > remanifest as a triad -- the Son partaking at once, of the 
Essence 
> of the
> > Father, and of that of the Mother -- the active Substance, 
> Prakriti in its
> > differentiated condition. 
> > 
> > "My Mother -- (Sophia -- the manifested Wisdom) took me" -- says 
> Jesus in a
> > Gnostic treatise; and he asks his disciples to tarry till he 
> comes. . . .
> > The true "Word" may only be found by tracing the mystery of the 
> passage
> > inward and outward of the Eternal Life, through the states 
> typified in these
> > three geometric figures. 
> > 
> > The criticism of "A Student of Occultism" (whose wits are 
> sharpened by the
> > mountain air of his home) and the answer of "S.T.K. . . . Chary" 
> (June
> > Theosophist) upon a part of your annular and circular 
expositions 
> need not
> > annoy or disturb in any way your philosophic calm. 
> > 
> > As our Pondicherry chela significantly says, neither you nor any 
> other man
> > across the threshold has had or ever will have the "complete 
> theory" of
> > Evolution taught him; or get it unless he guesses it for 
himself. 
> > 
> > If anyone can unravel it from such tangled threads as are given 
> him, very
> > well; and a fine proof it would indeed be of his or her 
spiritual 
> insight.
> > Some -- have come very near it. But yet there is always with the 
> best of
> > them just enough error, -- colouring and misconception; the 
shadow 
> of Manas
> > projecting across the field of Buddhi -- to prove the eternal 
law 
> that only
> > the unshackled Spirit shall see the things of the Spirit without 
a 
> veil. 
> > 
> > No untaught amateur could ever rival the proficient in this 
branch 
> of
> > research; yet the world's real Revelators have been few, and its
> > pseudo-Saviours legion; and fortunate it is if their half-
glimpses 
> of the
> > light are not, like Islam, enforced at the sword's point, or 
like 
> Christian
> > Theology, amid blazing faggots and in torture chambers. 
> > 
> > Your Fragments contain some -- still very few errors, due solely 
> to your two
> > preceptors of Adyar, one of whom would not, and the other could 
> not tell you
> > all. The rest could not be called mistakes -- rather incomplete
> > explanations. These are due, partly to your own imperfect 
> education in your
> > last theme -- I mean the ever-threatening obscurations -- partly 
> to the poor
> > vehicles of language at our disposal, and in part again, to the 
> reserve
> > imposed upon us by rule. Yet, all things considered, they are 
few 
> and
> > trivial; while as to those noticed by "A Student, etc." (the 
> Marcus Aurelius
> > of Simla) in your No. VII, it will be pleasant for you to know 
> that every
> > one of them, however now seeming to you contradictory, can (and 
if 
> it should
> > seem necessary shall) be easily reconciled with facts. 
> > 
> > The trouble is that (a) you cannot be given the real figures and 
> difference
> > in the Rounds, and (b) that you do not open doors enough for 
> explorers. 
> > 
> > The bright Luminary of the B.T.S. and the Intelligences that 
> surround her
> > (embodied I mean) may help you to see the flaws: at all events 
> Try. "Nothing
> > was ever lost by trying." 
> > 
> > You share with all beginners the tendency to draw too absolutely 
> strong
> > inferences from partly caught hints, and to dogmatize thereupon 
as 
> though
> > the last word had been spoken. You will correct this in due 
time. 
> You may
> > misunderstand us, are more than likely to do so, for our 
language 
> must
> > always be more or less that of parable and suggestion, when 
> treading upon
> > forbidden ground; we have our own peculiar modes of expression 
and 
> what lies
> > behind the fence of words is even more important than what you 
> read. But
> > still -- TRY. 
> > 
> > Perhaps if Mr. S. Moses could know just what was meant by what 
was 
> said to
> > him, and about his Intelligences, he would find all strictly 
true. 
> As he is
> > a man of interior growth, his day may come and his 
reconciliation 
> with "the
> > Occultists" be complete. Who knows? 
> > 
> > Meanwhile, I shall, with your permission, close this first 
volume. 
> > 
> >  
> > K. H. 
> > 
> > {Esoteric Buddhism was published June 11.} 
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
- 
>  
> > 
> > 
> > See TRANSACTIONS OF THE BLAVATSKY LODGE:  p.   106  [Blavatsky:  
> COLLECTED
> > WORKS  Vol. X ]
> > 
> >   STANZA III. (continued). 
> > 
> > Sloka (2). THE VIBRATION SWEEPS ALONG, TOUCHING WITH ITS SWIFT 
WING
> > (simultaneously) THE WHOLE UNIVERSE; AND THE GERM THAT DWELLETH 
IN 
> DARKNESS:
> > THE DARKNESS THAT BREATHES (moves) OVER THE SLUMBERING WATERS OF 
> LIFE. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. How are we to understand the expression that the vibration 
> touches the
> > whole universe and also the germ? 
> > 
> > A. First of all the terms used must be defined as far as 
possible, 
> for the
> > language used is purely figurative. The Universe does not mean 
the 
> Kosmos or
> > world of forms but the formless space, the future vehicle of the 
> Universe
> > which will be manifested. This space is synonymous with 
> the "waters of
> > space," with (to us) eternal darkness, in fact with Parabrahm. 
In 
> short the
> > whole Sloka refers to the "period" before there was any 
> manifestation
> > whatever. In the same way the Germ?the Germ is eternal, the 
> undifferentiated
> > atoms of future matter?- is one with space, as infinite as it is
> > indestructible, and as eternal as space itself. Similarly 
> with "vibration,"
> > which corresponds with the Point, the unmanifested Logos. 
> > 
> > It is necessary to add one important explanation. In using 
> figurative
> > language, as has been done in the Secret Doctrine, analogies and 
> comparisons
> > are very frequent. Darkness for instance, as a rule, applies 
only 
> to the
> > unknown totality, or, Absoluteness. Contrasted with eternal 
> darkness the
> > first Logos is certainly, Light; contrasted with the second or 
> third, the
> > manifested Logoi, the first is Darkness, and the others are 
Light.
> > 
> > 
> > Sloka (3). DARKNESS RADIATES LIGHT, AND LIGHT DROPS ONE SOLITARY 
> RAY INTO
> > THE WATERS, THE MOTHER-DEEP. THE RAY SHOOTS THROUGH THE VIRGIN 
> EGG; THE RAY
> > CAUSES THE ETERNAL EGG TO THRILL, AND DROP THE NON-ETERNAL 
> (periodical)
> > GERM, WHICH CONDENSES INTO THE WORLD-EGG. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Why is Light said to drop one solitary ray into the waters 
and 
> how is
> > this ray represented in connection with the Triangle? 
> > 
> > A. However many the Rays may appear to be on this plane, when 
> brought back
> > to their original source they will finally be resolved into a 
> unity, like
> > the seven prismatic colors which all proceed from, and are 
> resolved into the
> > one white ray. Thus too, this one solitary Ray expands into the 
> seven rays
> > (and their innumerable sub-divisions) on the plane of illusion 
> only. It is
> > represented in connection with the Triangle because the Triangle 
> is the
> > first perfect geometrical figure. As stated by Pythagoras, and 
> also in the
> > Stanza, the Ray (the Pythagorean Monad) descending from "no-
place" 
> (Aloka),
> > shoots like a falling star through the planes of non-being into 
> the first
> > world of being, and gives birth to Number One; then branching 
off, 
> to the
> > right, it produces Number Two; turning again to form the base-
line 
> it begets
> > Number Three, and thence ascending again to Number One, it 
finally
> > disappears therefrom into the realms of non-being as Pythagoras 
> shows. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Why should Pythagorean teachings be found in old Hindu 
> philosophies? 
> > 
> > A. Pythagoras derived this teaching from India and in the old 
> books we find
> > him spoken of as the Yavanacharya or Greek Teacher. Thus we see 
> that the
> > Triangle is the first differentiation, its sides however all 
being 
> described
> > by the one Ray. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. What is really meant by the term "planes of non-being"?
> > 
> > A. In using the term "planes of non-being" it is necessary to 
> remember that
> > these planes are only to us spheres of non-being, but those of 
> being and
> > matter to higher intelligences than ourselves. The highest Dhyan-
> Chohans of
> > the Solar System can have no conception of that which exists in 
> higher
> > systems, i.e., on the second "septenary" Kosmic plane, which to 
> the Beings
> > of the ever invisible Universe is entirely subjective. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sloka (4). (Then) THE THREE (Triangle) FALL INTO THE FOUR 
> (Quaternary). THE
> > RADIANT ESSENCE BECOMES SEVEN INSIDE, SEVEN OUTSIDE. THE 
LUMINOUS 
> EGG
> > (Hiranyagarbha), WHICH IN ITSELF IS THREE (the triple hypostases 
> of Brahma,
> > or Vishnu, the three Avasthas) CURDLES AND SPREADS IN MILK WHITE 
> CURDS
> > THROUGHOUT THE DEPTHS OF MOTHER, THE ROOT THAT GROWS IN THE 
OCEAN 
> OF LIFE. 
> > 
> > Q. Is the Radiant Essence the same as the luminous Egg? What is 
> the Root
> > that grows in the ocean of life? 
> > 
> > A. The radiant essence, luminous egg or Golden Egg of Brahma, or 
> again,
> > Hiranyagarbha, are identical. The Root that grows in the ocean 
of 
> life is
> > the potentiality that transforms into objective differentiated 
> matter the
> > universal, subjective, ubiquitous but homogeneous germ, or the 
> eternal
> > essence which contains the potency of abstract nature. The Ocean 
> of Life is,
> > according to a term of the Vedanta philosophy?if I mistake not?
> the "One
> > Life," Paramatma, when the transcendental supreme Soul is meant; 
> and
> > Jivatma, when we speak of the physical and animal "breath of 
life" 
> or, so to
> > speak, the differentiated soul, that life in short, which gives 
> being to the
> > atom and the universe, the molecule and the man, the animal, 
> plant, and
> > mineral. 
> > 
> > "The Radiant Essence curdled and spread through the depths of 
> Space." From
> > an astronomical point of view this is easy of explanation: it is 
> the Milky
> > Way, the world-stuff, or primordial matter in its first form.
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Is the Radiant Essence, Milky Way, or world-stuff, resolvable 
> into atoms,
> > or is it non-atomic? 
> > 
> > A. In its precosmic state it is of course, non-atomic, if by 
atoms 
> you mean
> > molecules; for the hypothetical atom, a mere mathematical point, 
> is not
> > material or applicable to matter, nor even to substance. 
> > 
> > The real atom does not exist on the material plane. The 
definition 
> of a
> > point as having position, must not, in Occultism, be taken in 
the 
> ordinary
> > sense of location; as the real atom is beyond space and time. 
The 
> word
> > molecular is really applicable to our globe and its plane, only: 
> once inside
> > of it, even on the other globes of our planetary chain, matter 
is 
> in quite
> > another condition, and non-molecular. 
> > 
> > The atom is in its eternal state, invisible even to the eye of 
an 
> Archangel;
> > and becomes visible to the latter only periodically, during the 
> life cycle.
> > The particle, or molecule, is not, but exists periodically, and 
is 
> therefore
> > regarded as an illusion. 
> > 
> > The world-stuff informs itself through various planes and cannot 
> be said to
> > be resolved into stars or to have become molecular until it 
> reaches the
> > plane of being of the visible or objective Universe. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Can ether be said to be molecular in Occultism? 
> > 
> > A. It entirely depends upon what is meant by the term. In its 
> lowest strata,
> > where it merges with the astral light, it may be called 
molecular 
> on its own
> > plane; but not for us. But the ether of which science has a 
> suspicion, is
> > the grossest manifestation of Akasa, though on our plane, for us 
> mortals, it
> > is the seventh principle of the astral light, and three degrees 
> higher than
> > "radiant matter." When it penetrates, or informs something, it 
may 
> be
> > molecular because it takes on the form of the latter, and its 
> 
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