Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00904)

Dear Dallas,

Thanks a lot.  If you allow me, I would like to add that the Mahatma Letters have teachings half-forgotten  and most important,  on the process that goes on from the very last minute in any given incarnation --  which the Masters comment and whose extreme importance they describe --  up  to the next lifetime. Including most important lessons on Devachan. 

Devachan is also extensively described in texts published in the first years of "The Theosophist", when HPB was its editor. 


Best regards,  Carlos. 



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Assunto:[Spam] Theos-World RE: Reincarnation - Pan Vision

> 
> 
> Subject: RE: Reincarnation - Pan Vision
> Sunday, May 28, 2006
> 
> 
> Dear Friend:
> 
> I hope you will find answers to your several questions herein, as I have"
> 
> To be very brief: 
> 
> ...our personal moral, karmic links are to this Earth and its environment.
> Every choice me make binds us to all those we live with and act with --
> relatives, friends, and the rest of humanity and all nature -- the undying
> atoms of life-consciousness on Earth.. 
> 
> The source of our own Individual immortality is the "SPIRIT-WISE-SOUL" It
> is UNDYING, IMMORTAL. It reincarnates. 
> 
> But each time we incarnate, a partial reflection of this animates the new
> "Personality: our present "Self."
> 
> It is in this temporary self that we live and experience -- this is the case
> for all.
> 
> Our present Earth and environment is our real very real and continuing
> "school." We have first of all to learn all we can in this our own self-made
> environment on this earth, in this life and in future life-times. The
> universal laws of justice and harmony (KARMA) demand this.
> 
> We do not go flitting around at random to places which we fancy, and have
> not had close mental or emotional contact.
> 
> Our Personality (Brain-mind and character) is reformed each time we return
> to life. Our past lives are linked through it to others to whom we owe
> debts or who owe us debts. This present life's "Controller" is an immortal,
> imperishable "thread" of ever-continued consciousness. It is dispersed
> (dies) when the life-force that conjoins all aspects of our personality has
> reached the end of its cohesive power (under its Karma). 
> 
> HPB wrote The KEY TO THEOSOPHY, and in that will be found full, detailed
> expositions of the Theosophical doctrines. These are not "dogmas." They
> are an exposition of the uniform and harmonious LAWS of Nature and of
> spiritual character development under our own mind and hands, and these have
> to be guided by our own decisions and will. 
> 
> The source of Man's INDIVIDUAL SPIRITUAL SELF is as ancient as the Universe
> from its earliest beginnings. Each one of us is an essential ":building
> block" of OUR UNIVERSE, and cannot be dispensed with even if its present
> body is destroyed. 
> 
> In all religions it will be found if compared thee are specific "virtues"
> that unify and harmonize all organized life and living. [see notes (2)
> below]
> 
> Over a vast number of successive incarnations it has formed moral and
> logical connections with other Egos (reincarnating minds) and NATURE (our
> Universe and particularly our Earth
> 
> 1
> 
> "WHAT REINCARNATES?
> 
> 
> “What reincarnates is a mystery to many minds because they find a difficulty
> in understanding such a permanency as must stand behind repeated
> incarnations. They know that the body is born and dies and is dissolved, but
> their minds are so identified with the body in its relations and
> surroundings that they are unable to dissociate themselves from it. They
> think of themselves as persons, as bodies of a physical nature, and hence
> can not see where in them may reside that power of incarnating from life to
> life. 
> 
> Theosophy presents a larger view in showing that man is not his body,
> because the body is continually changing; that man is not his mind, because
> he is constantly changing his mind; that there is in man a permanency which
> is the identity throughout all kinds of embodiments. 
> 
> There has been no change in our identity from childhood up to the present
> day. The body has changed; the surroundings have changed; but the identity
> remains the same and will not change from now on through all changes of body
> or mind or circumstance. 
> 
> That in us which is itself unchanging is the only real. Nothing is real that
> changes. It is only the real that perceives change. 
> 
> Change can not see change. Only that which is constant perceives change;
> only the permanent can perceive impermanence. However dimly we may perceive
> it, there is that in us which is eternal and changeless. 
> 
> This unchanging, constant, and immortal something in us is not absent from
> any particle or any being whatever. There is only one Life in the world to
> which we, as well as all other beings, pertain. We all proceeded from the
> same one Source - not many - and we are proceeding on the same path to the
> same great goal. 
> 
> The ancients said that the Divine Self is in all beings, but in all it does
> not shine forth. The real is within, and may be realized by any human being
> in himself. Everyone needs that realization that he may shine forth and
> express the God within, which all beings but partially express. 
> 
> If then the Source is the same - the One Spirit - in all beings, why so many
> forms, so many personalities, so many individualizations? All, again
> Theosophy shows, are developments. 
> 
> In that great Ocean of Life, which is at the same time Consciousness and
> Spirit, we move and live and have our being. That ocean is separable into
> its constituent drops and the separation is effected through the great
> course of evolution. Even in the kingdoms below us, which are from the same
> Source, the tendency to separate into drops of individualized consciousness
> goes on in ever-increasing degree. 
> 
> In the animal kingdom, those species that are nearest to us make an approach
> to self-consciousness; but we as human beings have arrived at that stage
> where each is a constituent drop of the great ocean of Consciousness. As
> with an ocean of water, each drop of it contains all the elements of the
> great body, so each constituent drop of humanity - a human being - contains
> within its range every element of the great universe. 
> 
> The same power exists in all of us, yet where we stand on the ladder of
> being we see many below us and others greater than we above us. Humanity now
> is building the bridge of thought, the bridge of ideas that connects the
> lower with the higher. 
> 
> The whole purpose of incarnation, or our descent into matter, was not only
> to gain further knowledge of matter, but to impel the lower kingdoms to come
> up to where we are. 
> 
> We stand as gods to the lower kingdoms. It is our impulsion that brings them
> weal or woe. It is our misconception of the aim of life that makes Nature so
> hard; that causes all the distress and disasters which afflict us in
> cyclones, tornadoes, diseases, pestilences of every kind. 
> 
> All are our own doing; and why? Because there is a sublimation of mineral,
> vegetable and animal kingdoms in our bodies, which are lives in themselves.
> Every cell in our bodies has its birth, youth, manhood, decay and death, and
> its reincarnation. We are impelling each one of those lives according to
> whatever thought, will, or feeling we may have, whether for help or injury
> to others. These lives go out from us for good or evil, back into their
> kingdoms with good or evil. 
> 
> So by our lack of understanding of our own true natures, without a
> comprehension of universal brotherhood, we are imperfectly performing our
> duties on this plane and are imperfectly helping the evolution of the lower
> kingdoms. We shall realize our responsibility to them only as we see that
> every being is on his way upward; that all above man have been men at one
> time; that all below man will some time reach man's estate, when we have
> gone on further; that all forms, all beings, all individualizations are but
> aspects of the One Spirit. 
> 
> Granted, then, that this one unchanging Spirit is in all - the cause of all
> evolutionary development, the cause of all incarnations - where, we may ask,
> do we carry the power to see and know from life to life? How is continuity
> of knowledge, gained by observation and experience, preserved? How is the
> individual maintained as such? 
> 
> We should remember that we were self-conscious beings when this planet
> began; some even were self-conscious when this solar system began; for there
> is a difference in degree of development among human beings. 
> 
> If the planet or solar system began in a state of primordial substance, or
> nebulous matter, as Science calls it, then we must have had bodies of that
> state of substance. In that finest substance are all the possibilities of
> every grade of matter, and hence it is that within the true body of
> primordial matter all the changes of courser and courser substance have been
> brought about; and within that body is all experience. Our birth is within
> that body. Everything that occurs to us is within that body - a body of a
> nature which does not change throughout the whole Manvantara. 
> 
> Each one has such a body of finest substance, of the inner nature, which is
> the real container for the individual. In it he lives and moves and has his
> being, and yet even the great glory and fineness of that body is not the
> man; it is merely the highest vesture of the Soul. The Real Man we are is
> the Man that was, that is, and that ever shall be, for whom the hour will
> never strike - Man, the thinker; Man, the perceiver - always thinking,
> continually acting. 
> 
> Life is one. Spirit is one. Consciousness is one. These three are one - a
> trinity - and we are that trinity. 
> 
> All the changes of substance and form are brought about by Spirit and
> Consciousness and expressed in various forms of life. We are that One
> Spirit, each standing in a vast assemblage of beings in this great universe,
> seeing and knowing what he can through the instruments he has. 
> 
> We are the Trinity - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost; or, in
> theosophical parlance, we are Atma, Buddhi, and Manas. Atma is the One
> Spirit, not belonging to any one, but to all. 
> 
> Buddhi is the sublimated experience of all the past. 
> 
> Manas is the thinking power, the thinker, the man, the immortal man. There
> is no man without the Spirit, and no man without that experience of the
> past; but the mind is the realm of creation, of ideas; and the Spirit
> itself, with all its power, acts according to the ideas that are in the
> mind. 
> 
> The VOICE OF THE SILENCE says, "Mind is like a mirror. It gathers dust while
> it reflects." It needs soul-wisdom to brush away the dust [of our
> illusions]. This mind of ours, or that which we call the mind, is merely the
> reflector, which presents, as we train it, different pictures. 
> 
> The Spirit acts in accord with the ideas seen, for good or for evil. Is
> there evil in the world? It is the power of Spirit that caused it. Is there
> good in the world? It is the power of Spirit that caused it. For there is
> only one power. The misdirection of that power brings evil; its right
> direction brings good. 
> 
> We must give up the idea that we are poor, weak, miserable creatures who can
> never do anything for ourselves; for as long as we hold that idea, so long
> will we never do anything. We must get the other idea - that we are Spirit,
> that we are immortal - and when we come to realize what that means, the
> power of it will flow directly in and through us, unrestricted in any
> direction, save by the instruments which we ourselves caused to be
> imperfect. So let us get away from the idea that we are this poor,
> miserable, defective physical body over which we have so little control. We
> can not stop a heart beat; we can not stop the breath without destroying the
> body; we can not stop the constant dissociation of matter that goes on in
> it, nor prevent its final dissolution. 
> 
> Some people talk of "demonstrating" against death, but we might as well try
> to demonstrate against the trees shedding their leaves when the winter
> blasts come. Death will always be, and there is a great advantage in it. If
> we could not change our bodies, how would there be any chance for
> advancement? Are we so well pleased with the bodies now ours that we would
> desire no change? Certainly not. There is only one thing in this life that
> can be retained permanently, and that is the spiritual nature, and the great
> divine compassion which we may translate by the word "love." 
> 
> We are the reincarnating Egos who will continue to incarnate until the great
> task which we undertook is completed. That task is the raising up of the
> whole of humanity to the highest possible stage of perfection on an earth of
> this kind. We incarnate from age to age for the preservation of the just,
> the destruction of wickedness, and the establishment of righteousness. That
> is what we are here for, whether we know it or not, and we must come to a
> recognition of the immortality of our own natures before we shall ever
> relieve ourselves from the distresses that afflict humanity everywhere. We
> have to bring ourselves in touch and tune with the whole great purpose of
> Nature which is the evolution of Soul, and for which alone all the universe
> exists.” [ Robert Crosbie ]"
> 
> 
> ===================
> 
> 2
> 
> NOTES:
> 
> VIRTUES, VICES and the 3 GUNAS (qualities of Nature)
> Man's independence and responsibility ?
> 
> 
> One wrote: Concerning the position of religions vs. THEOSOPHY :
> 
> "When you wrote of Karma, it made me think that a frightened
> humanity seems to nearly deify the possibilities of destruction, so that
> some being exterior from us needs to save us (from the 'devil') ? It seems
> an ignorant way to deal with Karma as Nemesis. 
> 
> ---------------------------
> 
> 
> I am of the opinion, having studied a number of religions, that the basis
> from which they started -- the sayings and deeds of a very WISE personage
> -- is uniform. And, that those of his disciples who chose to perpetuate his
> injunctions and copy his actions have gradually acted to pervert them. The
> reasons for this sad state, are various. 
> 
> The uniformity of those several original teachings conforms with the
> teachings HPB offered: THEOSOPHY -- the same principles are there. 
> 
> In THEOSOPHY we find we are asked to study, think and make our own
> decisions, It adds explanations and logical concepts. HPB and the Masters
> of Wisdom carefully trace the brotherhood of religions for us. The same
> ethics prevail.
> 
> Instead of illuminating and encouraging all their adherents to study
> independently, and become themselves knowledgeable and wise, they have
> gradually concealed under ritual, rote and ceremony the basic freedom of
> individual search and application that is implicit in the "originals." They
> have caused to arise as a matter of "duty," a dependence on their "services"
> to become mandatory, or the threat of expulsion from the "congregation," and
> an isolation from the "True God" was invoked.
> 
> Of course any inquiry into their priestly doings and authority is resisted
> vigorously.
> 
> Consider the basis all priesthoods are found to have adopted. 
> 
> Let us use the 3 Universal Qualities that are equipoised in Nature (the
> Universe we live in, and the Earth we live on, in particular). 
> 
> These are the 3 "Gunas:" Sattva - Rajas and Tamas, or Truth, Action and
> Inertia, or
> Spirit, Mind and Matter -- spoken of in the BHAGAVAD GITA (Chapters : 12,
> 14, 17)
> 
> Let us use these few statements concerning Deity (God) as an impersonal and
> Universal Base-Principle -- They will be found to be the prime principles
> on which all religions are based: 
> 
> The Omnipresence, Omniscience and Omnipotence, of the Deity -- 
> 
> 
> 1 "God" is PRESENT EVERYWHERE 
> 
> -- IT in the "heart" and essence of all -- no exceptions. 
> 
> -- Therefore "God" desires their existence. No one has the right, or duty,
> to terminate another's living for any reason. 
> 
> -- "God" lives closest to us in our own "heart," and does not need
> "priests" to be contacted, when we think.
> 
> 
> 2 "God" - KNOWS ALL 
> 
> -- therefore, there are no secrets, no "hiding places," 
> 
> -- What we do and are, good or bad, is clearly known to "IT." 
> 
> -- "Nature" and the "Universe" are synonyms for "God" or "Deity." 
> 
> -- Logically, therefore, there is no isolated "Personal God" separate from
> ITS Universe or from anything, (including every human) in it.
> 
> -- Every "religion" has sprung from these single prime facts. It has become
> a creed because of rigidity in rites, rote, and ceremonies instituted by a
> priesthood.
> 
> 
> 3 "God" - SUPERVISES EVERYTHING 
> 
> 
> -- that is essential and needed to support life and harmonious relations
> among all beings large or small, near or far.
> 
> 
> 4 God is honest, merciful and just -- not a tyrant, but demands that
> we know these qualities and powers and live our lives in harmony with all.
> 
> 
> 
> A TAMAS - inertia, lethargy
> 
> 
> 1. Mental lethargy -- avoid thinking and learning TRUTH
> 
> 2 Ignorance, doubt -- avoid learning and responsibility
> 
> 3 Faith substituted for knowledge
> 
> 4 Fear - of effects that will pain or harm ourselves
> 
> 5 Forgiveness for wrongs done deliberately or carelessly
> 
> 6 Securing special unmerited advantages, desire, passion, 
> 
> 7 Hate, haughtiness, domination, and ruling over others,
> 
> 8 Pride, fame, ostentation, adulation, 
> 
> 9 Greed for possessions, life to be prolonged, 
> 
> 10 Self-righteousness, lack of humility, concealing ignorance 
> 
> 
> 
> B RAJAS - Wrongful actions
> 
> 
> 1 Pretense to wisdom and power, connection to "god"
> 
> 2 Can "fix" and avoid due retribution
> 
> 3 Demands ceremonial respect and sacrifices
> 
> 4 Keeps people ignorant of LAW (Karma) and fearful
> 
> 5 Greed for wealth, false justice and power
> 
> 6 Theft, extortion, lying, torture (physical and mental), 
> 
> 7 Murder, wars, 
> 
> 
> 
> C SATTVA - 
> 
> 
> 1 Spiritual selfishness and isolation
> 
> 2 Refusal to assist others, isolation,
> 
> 3 Acquisition of wisdom for selfish use
> 
> 
> Not everyone is acquainted with "Nemesis" the Greek Goddess of retribution
> which simply stated says every choice we make produces an inescapable
> effect. [S D I 641-3; II 305-6, 421, 304 ]
> 
> THEOSOPHY states (as does every other religion) that a human is in reality
> a seven-fold entity (a microcosm of the Universe, endowed with the same
> panorama of potentials, and supervised by the WILL of one of the SPIRITUAL
> INDIVIDUAL RAYS.
> 
> (1) Spirit or "God's" presence [Atma] within him / her (and in all else).
> 
> (2) Wisdom [Buddhi] accumulated through experience over many incarnations
> 
> (3) Thinking and the power to think -- Mind [Manas]. Decision making, Free
> choice.
> 
> 
> In our comments we can call these three: "the Spiritual Man." 
> 
> 
> (4) Emotion, desire passion, urges, moods, sensitivities to our
> environment. [Kama]
> 
> (5) Life-force [Jiva, Prana] that sustains the body.
> 
> (6) Electro-magnetic pattern or model body, underlying all physical
> structures in it [Astral Body].
> 
> (7) The physical body we all know and live in.
> 
> These four make up the ever changing Personality which acts in "matter."
> We have called these 4 the "personal man" of any one incarnation.
> 
> To make this analysis simple we can say that every human ("Spiritual Man")
> is an immortal Spiritual entity (called in THEOSOPHY a "Monad"). 
> 
> It accumulates a fund of wisdom / experience / memory over many
> incarnations. I6 thus alters its own "character."
> 
> Endowed (by its Elder Brothers, Wise-Men who have graduated earlier, and
> who now act as
> its mentors) with an independent Mind, it (we) thinks independently and
> makes free choices. 
> [S D II 167]
> 
> It is often confronted with its desires, fancies and emotions -- which may
> run against
> its knowledge of what is "best to do." Such conflicts require thought and
> are the tests set by Nature to enable its individual progress as an immortal
> human being. 
> 
> This is the "field of battle" -- called "Kurukshetra" in the BHAGAVAD GITA
> .
> 
> The life force, model body and physical body are the vehicles of this
> process and also serve as the field of experience for innumerable "monads"
> of lesser experience to develop. Each human is as a parent to these, and
> responsible for their advance and development. They serve as the vehicles
> -- the "carriers" of karmic effects.
> 
> ======================
> 
> 
> From APHORISMS on REINCARNATION
> 
> ===================================
> 
> 
> 
> 1. All worlds...are subject to rebirth again and again. BHAGAVAD
> GITA, P. 60
> 
> 
> 2. Man is an immortal soul. All nature is sentient. Down to the
> smallest atom, all is soul and spirit, ever evolving under the rule of law,
> which is inherent in the whole. Nature exists for no other purpose than the
> soul’s experience. OCEAN of THEOSOPHY, p. 2
> 
> 
> 3. Both I [THE UNIVERSAL SPIRIT] and thou [Man] have passed through
> many births, O Harasser of thy foes; mine are known unto me, but thou
> knowest not of thine…For never to an evil place goeth one who doeth good...
> Being thus born again, he comes in contact with the knowledge which belonged
> to him in his former body...[and]...striving with all his might, [he]
> obtaineth perfection because of efforts continued through many births.
> BHAGAVAD GITA 31 
> 
> 
> 4. This immortal thinker [man]... having such vast powers and
> possibilities, all his because of his intimate connection with every secret
> part of Nature, from which he has been built up, stands at the top of an
> immense and silent evolution. OCEAN of THEOSOPHY 60
> 
> 
> 5. The Knower is never born, nor dies; nor is it from anywhere, nor
> did it become anything. Unborn, eternal, immemorial, this Ancient is not
> slain when the body is slain...this Self is hidden in the heart of
> man...Understanding this great Lord, the Self, bodiless in bodies, stable
> among the unstable, the wise man cannot grieve. KATHA UPANISHAD, p.
> 41
> 
> 
> 6. The soul is the Perceiver; is assuredly vision itself, pure and
> simple, unmodified, and looks directly upon ideas. For the sake of the soul
> alone, the Universe exists. YOGA SUTRAS of PATANJALI, p. 24
> 
> 
> 7. Each man’s life, the outcome of his former living is. The bygone
> wrongs bring forth sorrows and woes, the bygone right breeds bliss.
> LIGHT of ASIA (Bk 8, p. 143)
> 
> 
> 8. Every atom is alive and has the germ of self-consciousness. OCEAN
> 
> 
> 9.. “...this universe [is] for the experience and emancipation of the
> soul, for the purpose of raising the entire mass of manifested matter up to
> the stature, nature, and dignity of conscious god-hood. The great aim is to
> reach self-consciousness by and through the perfecting after transformation
> of the whole mass of matter as well as what we now call soul. The aim for
> present man is his initiation into complete knowledge. As to the whole mass
> of matter, the doctrine is that it will all be raised to man’s estate when
> man has gone further on himself. “ OCEAN of THEOSOPHY, p. 62-3
> 
> 
> 10. We are not appearing for the first time when we come upon this
> planet; but have pursued a long, an immeasurable course of activity and
> intelligent perception on other systems of globes. 
> OCEAN of THEOSOPHY p. 2-3
> 
> 
> 15. The life of man is held to be a pilgrimage... Starting from the
> great ALL, radiating like a spark from the central fire, he gathers
> experience in all ages, under all rulers, civilizations and customs, ever
> engaged in a pilgrimage to the shrine from which he came. He is now the
> ruler and now the slave; to-day at the pinnacle of wealth and power,
> to-morrow at the bottom of the ladder, perhaps in abject misery, but ever
> the same being. ECHOES p. 31
> 
> 
> 16. The end to be reached is self-dependence with perfect calmness and
> clearness ... (the) whole life is a persistent pursuit of the fast-moving
> soul, which, although appearing to stand still, can outdistance the
> lightening. ECHOES p. 32-3
> 
> 
> 17. One short human life gives no grounds for the production of the
> inner nature...The soul must be reborn until it has ceased to set in motion
> the cause of rebirth, after having developed character up to its possible
> limit when every experience has been passed through.
> OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY p. 81
> 
> 
> 18. There is a vast range of powers latent in man, which may be
> developed if opportunity be given. Knowledge, infinite in scope and
> diversity, lies before us. We have high aspirations with no time to reach
> up to their measure, while the passions and desires, selfish motives and
> ambitions, war with us and among themselves. All these have to be tried,
> conquered, used, subdued. One life is not enough for this.
> OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY P. 82-3
> 
> 
> 
> 62. We come back to earth because on it and with the beings upon it our
> deeds were performed; it is the only proper place where punishment and
> reward can be justly meted out; here is the only natural spot in which to
> continue the struggle toward perfection, development of the faculties we
> have, and the destruction of the wickedness in us.”
> OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY p. 84
> 
> 
> 63. No man can by any possibility, or favor, or edict, or belief escape
> the consequences of the causes he sets up, and each one who grasps this
> doctrine will be moved by conscience and the whole power of nature to do
> well in order that he may receive good and become happy.
> OCEAN of THEOSOPHY p. 70
> 
> 
> 66. The law of Reincarnation drags us into life again and again,
> bringing with us uncounted times the various Egos whom we have known in
> prior births...in order that the causes generated in company with those Egos
> may be worked out. ECHOES p. 39
> 
> 
> 67. We are, in this life, responsible for the civilization in which we
> now appear. OCEAN of THEOSOPHY p. 73
> 
> 
> 68. Reward and punishment must be the just desert for prior conduct.
> Nature’s law of justice is not imperfect. In a prior life the doer was then
> quite aware of what he did, and, nature affixes consequences to his acts,
> being thus just. OCEAN of THEOSOPHY p. 75
> 
> 
> 71. Each human has a definite character, different from every other.
> These differences, both individual and national, are not due to education.
> Heredity furnishes the appropriate place for receiving reward and
> punishment, and is not the cause for the essential nature shown by everyone.
> OCEAN of THEOSOPHY p. 85-6
> 
> 
> 72. [The Universe may be envisioned as]...an endless evolution and
> re-involution (or re-absorption) of the Kosmos; a process which...is
> without a beginning, or an end. Our Kosmos and Nature will run down only
> to reappear on a more perfect plane after every PRALAYA ( A Universal
> ‘night’ of rest and dissolution that ends with a re-formation).
> SECRET DOCTRINE I p. 148 & 149
> 
> 
> 73. The world evolves just as man does. It is now conditioned as the
> actual result of its past. It is born, grows old, dies, and is
> reincarnated. This goes on many times, and during those incarnations it
> suffers and enjoys in its own way for its previous evolutions.
> ECHOES p. 40
> 
> 
> 74. Our Earth is one of a chain of planets, it alone being on the
> visible plane. Humanity passes from globe to globe in a series of ‘rounds,’
> first circling about each globe, and reincarnating upon it a fixed number of
> times. This incarnation is not single, but repeated; each individuality
> becomes re-embodied during numerous existences in successive races and
> planets of our chain, and accumulating the experiences of each incarnation
> towards its perfection. EPITOME p. 16, 22
> 
> 
> 75. So far as concerns this globe the number of Egos belonging to it is
> definite. The total is vast. Each Ego, for itself, varies the length of
> stay in the Post mortem states. Whenever there occurs a great number of
> deaths by war, pestilence, or famine, there is at once a rush of souls to
> incarnation, either in the same place or in some other place or race.
> OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY. p. 77 
> 
> 
> 76. Savagery remains because there are still Egos whose experience is so
> limited that they are still savage OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY p. 89
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> We find it has been suggested... 
> 
> that theosophists jot down as they occur any arguments hit upon to support
> the doctrine of reincarnation. One furnishes this: 
> 
> That the persistency of individual character and attitude of mind seems a
> strong argument; and adduces the fact that when he was a youth thirty years
> ago he wrote a letter to himself upon questions about God, nature, and the
> inner man, and finds now upon re-reading it that it almost exactly expresses
> his present attitude. 
> 
> Also he thinks that the inner character of each shows itself in early youth,
> persisting through life; and as each character is different there must have
> been reincarnation to account for the differences. And that the assertion
> that differences in character are due to heredity seems to be disposed of by
> the persistency of essential character, even if, as we know to be the case,
> scientists did not begin to deny the sufficiency of heredity to account for
> our differences.
> 
> Another writes: 
> 
> If heredity would account for that which, existing in our life, makes us
> feel that we have lived here before, then the breeding of dogs and horses
> would show similar great differences as are observed in men. But a high-bred
> slut will bring forth a litter of pups by a father of equal breed, all
> exhibiting one character, whereas in the very highest bred families among
> men it is well known that the children will differ from each other so much
> that we cannot rely upon the result. Then again, considering the objections
> raised on ground of heredity, it should not be forgotten that but small
> attention has been paid to those cases where heredity will not give the
> explanation.
> 
> Inherent differences of character. The great differences in capacity seem to
> call for reincarnation as the explanation. Notice that the savages have the
> same brains and bodies as ours, yet not the same character or intelligence;
> they seem to be unprogressed egos who are unable to make the machine of
> brain to respond to its highest limit.
> Path, August. 1891
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Dallas
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos Paterson
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:35 AM
> Subject: Reincarnation - Pan Vision
> 
> Dear Friends,
> 
> As I am a beginner in Theosophy, I would like to ask you for permission
> to make some questions about REINCARNATION. Perhaps ingenuous, but something
> that I do not find in Theosophy Literature, at least where I could contact
> it. 
> 
> affirmation that reincarnating is only "reincarnating in the Earth
> Planet". 
> 
> Why? Who say that? I think that nobody, especially the Mahatmas, the
> Masters, the Adepts, with their conceptions impregnated of a living,
> harmonious and pulsating universe, replete of life. This, of course, is my
> point of view - a humble one.
> 
> Then, my first (1) question:
> 
> (1) Reincarnation occurs at other planets? There´s something specific,
> clearly expressed, about this at Blavatsky writings? ...
> 
> (2) Reincarnating implies only "re-embodying in flesh", only in a
> "physical body"? There´s a possibility of occurring a "process of
> reincarnation" not in a physical body, using a "physical matter"? There´s
> something specific, clearly expressed, about this at Blavatsky writings?
> ...
> In resume, I think that the "interchange" in this vast Universe is not a
> insane conception, on the contrary, it seems beautiful and melodious and
> could comprises the reincarnation process... 
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