Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00516)

Dear Daniel,


Please take advantage of the Vaisakh full moon energies and take a calm, kind look at what is said below.

Hopeful & respectful regards,  Carlos. 




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Data:Sat, 13 May 2006 18:02:03 +0200

Assunto:[Spam] Re: Theos-World Sufilight & Carlos Re: Truth and Fiction in The Da Vinci Code:

> Hallo Daniel and all,
> 
> My views are:
> 
> The following words are wellmeant and written out of compassion.
> 
> 1.
> Daniel wrote:
> "Sufilight, I would suggest that you not
> diss scholars all the time. Sometimes
> they know what they are talking about, other
> times maybe not."
> 
> Why?
> So that was where the shoe pinched, Sahib. :-)
> Saying "Sometimes" like you do in the above will not make the
> fact go away, that this word aught to be "very Seldom".
> I think it is here the difference of Knowledge comes in to play.
> 
> If you in fact did read my words more carefully,
> you will understand, that I value scholars, when they
> do important compassionate efforts. But way too many are today
> creating problems instead of alleviating them.
> Pompous prestige and greed after money plays too important a role to
> many scholars. Sure the "Jesuits" have always loved scholars,
> when they were useful.
> These are just my views.
> 
> 2.
> Friendly advices:
> I am not saying that your own activities are fruitless
> or just bad. You have in fact done quite well at least in part.
> But, Please Never allow the Blavatskyarchives website and its various pages 
> to give
> the readers the overall impression that you are supporting a negative 
> version
> of The SPR and that you are the cats paw of the "jesuits", "Coulombs" and 
> the like.
> It might serve a purpose, to feed the intellect at the expense of the inner
> organ of wisdom of the readers of your website - and yet again it might
> NOT be so fruitful to do it to such an extend as Blavatskyarchives are doing 
> it.
> The latter part of the last sentence aught to be considered.
> These are just my views.
> 
> 3.
> You are in your email assuming a whole lot about me being non-skeptical.
> I think I am very skeptical about all and everything,
> and that is one reason why I am a member of Theos-talk and write this email. 
> :-)
> Being skeptical can be done using scholary methods. It can also be done 
> using
> esoteric methods. We the Seekers after Truth perfer the esoteric methods.
> We read the Akasha library or we seek to read it. We also read auras from 
> time to time.
> Scholars do nearly always not value these methods, and that is why we often 
> disagree with them.
> Some scholars are in fact serving the "jesuits" more than they are aware of. 
> This also include scholars
> being concerned with theosophy. And this should be no surprise, because the 
> Vatican are dead against
> our teachings, and have even officially stated it. They consider theosophy 
> as the primary source
> of modern New Age. I am sure that the "Jesuits" are trying to infiltrate the 
> theosophical teachings.
> 
> The question is, whether, you, Daniel Caldwell are willing to do something 
> to stop this infiltration ?
> 
> 
> 4.
> Daniel wrote:
> "Did I suggest that you should swallow it whole without
> carefully examining the arguments given?"
> 
> Point taken. But yet again you did not warn any of the beginner seekers.
> And because of that and because of your websites lack of compassion in its
> navigation-structure, AND its heavy lack of a clear position against the 
> "Jesuits"
> I answered accordingly - to provoke a certain reaction within you.
> 
> Your website could with advantage add a section named something like
> "About us" or "About the website" and at least carefully stating the purpose 
> with the website, plus revealing the
> position of yourself and those who help you. You are not really revealing 
> your position on
> the website, but you are doing it here at theos-talk.
> This one on the website is very good though:
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/theosophicaltraditions.htm
> Examples. The below links are confusing the motives with your website when 
> reached through results of a Internet searchengine.
> One reason being, that your website do not have an ordinary menu like others 
> have:
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/coulombmm1884.htm
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/coulomb1884b.htm
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/hume1884.htm (Interesting "time-appropiate" 
> view of master KH)
> 
> 
> 5.
> Daniel wrote:
> "Yes be skeptical of the Catholic Church's version of "truth,"
> but don't trade one fiction for simply another fiction!"
> 
> We the Seekers after Truth are not only skeptical, we are dead somehow 
> against
> the "Jesuitic" activities, which are happening under the name of the
> Catholic Church. I think that is an important difference in our views.
> If you would more openly agree to oppose the "Jesuits" you
> will help many Seekers after Truth. You could do that on your website.
> It is a question about priorities.
> 
> Fiction or non-fiction:
> Nobody says, that the scholars understand to provoke the theosophical
> experience in people. They often provoke the rest of wisdom and spread a 
> nightmare
> of intellectual narrowmindeness. The poets open up wisdom in the readers.
> What is important is the fact, that the book by Dan Brown is putting its
> fingers at the fake and ugly truth about the "Jesuits" and the Vatican. 
> Using Opus
> Dei as a tool is of secondary importance.
> The fact that the book contains faults when viewed from a theosophical and
> non-scholary point of view has of course to be taken into account.
> 
> 
> Yes, There is no Religion Higher Than Truth.
> I do hope, that Master Morya will pay his respect and visit you today.
> 
> - - -
> "This book," said the salesman, "will do half your work." "FINE," said Mulla 
> Nasrudin. "I WILL TAKE TWO OF THEM."
> - - -
> 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> 
> <<<<<<< >>>>>>>
> We, the theosophists don't plan to form an organization with somebody at the 
> top and others
> at the bottom collecting money or wearing funny clothes or converting people 
> to theosophy.
> We view theosophy not as an ideology that molds people to the right way of 
> belief or action,
> but as an art or science that can exert a beneficial influence on 
> individuals or societies, in
> accordance with the needs of those individuals and societies.
> 
> Instead of saying that Theosophy is a body of thought in which you believe 
> certain things
> and don't believe other things, we say that the theosophical experience has 
> to be provoked
> in a person. Once provoked, it becomes his own property, rather as a person 
> masters an art.
> <<<<<<<>>>>>>>
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "danielhcaldwell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:55 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Sufilight & Carlos Re: Truth and Fiction in The Da 
> Vinci Code:
> 
> 
> > Sufilight and Carlos:
> >
> > I love the Da Vinci Code and plan
> > to see the movie.
> >
> > Of course the book itself is fiction.
> >
> > And I see it is generating alot of
> > controversy which is good!
> >
> > http://www.variety.com/VR1117943021.html
> >
> > Sufilight, I would suggest that you not
> > diss scholars all the time. Sometimes
> > they know what they are talking about, other
> > times maybe not.
> >
> > But be as skeptical of non-scholars as you are of
> > scholars!!!
> >
> > Just because someone may call himself/herself a mystic
> > or esotericist, doesn't mean that you shouldn't
> > be skeptical of their claims, etc. Right?
> >
> > The following book about the Da Vinci Code is an excellent book:
> >
> > http://blavatskyarchives.com/Ehrmanbibliography.htm#Vinci
> >
> > Did I suggest that you should swallow it whole without
> > carefully examining the arguments given?
> >
> > Yes be skeptical of the Catholic Church's version of "truth,"
> > but don't trade one fiction for simply another fiction!
> >
> > Remember that motto:
> >
> > There is no religion, belief, opinion, ism or ology higher than
> > truth....
> >
> > Daniel
> > http://hpb.cc
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Truth and Fiction in The Da Vinci Code:
> >> A Historian Reveals What We Really Know
> >> about Jesus, Mary Magdalene, and Constantine
> >> by Bart D. Ehrman
> >>
> >> See:
> >>
> >> http://blavatskyarchives.com/Ehrmanbibliography.htm#Vinci
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >> http://hpb.cc
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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