Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00351)

Dear Daniel,

OK.  I see.

I do not think it was a fortunate thing to make ( as the ETS did ) even a very  limited edition xerox copy of Emma Coulomb' s libels, without adding to the same volume the right identification of its content and complete documents showing that  it was a collection of forgeries. 

If that makes you happy, I believe it was a mistake. A mistake because the ETS did not  and could not foresee that those things would get to YOUR  HANDS, or that you would start making propaganda of them. 

We all make mistakes.  I realize that looking at myself, and at my friends.  

But how could the ETS  imagine you would do such an absurd? 

It is easier to see things after they occur... 

Now, the ETS -- and FOHAT -- is completely engaged in defending HPB and Judge from your policy of circulating libels. Tirelessly so. 

Whereas you are going to the lay and wide public, as much as you can, with those lies. 

The ETS wanted only to preserve the forgeries as documents. Coulomb's text could be useful in the future for people to know what actually were the lies against HPB and with what techniques slanderers worked in the 19th century.

Unfortunately, you got the text and immediately started to make propaganda of the Coulombs.

But  the Coulombs at least got their Holy Bribe. 

While you have to take the money from your own pockets ir order to make propaganda of the slanderers among the wide  public. 

Congratulations for your generosity,   

Carlos Cardoso Aveline. 










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Data:Thu, 11 May 2006 16:30:46 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Carlos on False dollar bills & poisons and ETS reprint of the Coulomb pamphlet

> Carlos,
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> You write to me:
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> You should make false dollar bills circulate, so that people 
> have a chance to freely decide which are true, which are false.
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> In a drug store, your should deliver both medicines and poisons 
> to people, without labeling them correctly, so that they have 
> a chance to choose which onethey like better.
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> Think about that.
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> Ok Carlos thinking about the above, the following has occurred
> to me.
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> Now when you initially criticized my book and the TPH Wheaton
> for publishing my book, I pointed out that the Edmonton Theosophical
> Society actually reprinted the COMPLETE Coulomb book.
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> Now I believe Bruce said well maybe only 20 research libraries 
> received copies of this reprint of the whole Coulomb text whereas 
> apparently since my book would be circulated to a much larger 
> audience, there was a difference.
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> If I have mistated his argument, I'm sure he will correct me.
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> Anyway, taking the examples you give above of circulating false 
> dollar bills and delivering both medicines and poisons without 
> labeling them correctly, isn't the Edmonton Theosophical Society by 
> publishing the whole Coulomb book, aren't they also guilty 
> of "circulating false dollar bills" and of delivering poisons 
> without labelling them correctly? 
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> No where in the Coulomb reprint is there a warning that what is 
> written is false or poisonous.
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> Now Bruce's argument is that well only maybe 20 research libraries 
> got the Coulomb book, (that is, according to you , the false dollar 
> bills and the poison) but the question still remains HOW MANY 
> inquirers and new students to Theosophy may encounter this Edmonton 
> Theosophical Society reprint of the Coulomb book in one of these 
> libraries? Is Bruce telling us that new students, inquirers never 
> go to these libraries and use the material? 
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> IF the Coulomb material is really poisonous (I'm here using your 
> example) then it would seem to me that the Edmonton Theosophical 
> Society is also helping to circulate such counterfeit bills and such 
> poisons to the patrons and library users at these institutions and 
> furthermore there are no editorial remarks anywhere in this reprint 
> warning readers that anything in the pamphlet might be "poisonous" 
> or counterfeit.
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> Also following up your suggestion to think, IF I remember correctly
> the Coulomb book was offered for sale in FOHAT magazine. Again I do 
> not remember any note in FOHAT warning that said book was 
> counterfeit or poisonous, no warning at all as far as I remember. 
> Apparently readers could just send the proper amount of money and 
> they received a copy. Also as far as I can remember there was no 
> note in FOHAT stating that inquirers and new students could NOT 
> purchase this Coulomb volume. So if only one inquirer or new 
> student bought a copy and FOHAT magazine did not warn them that said 
> volume contained false material, counterfeit, poisonous, etc., well, 
> what conclusion could be drawn???? :) 
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> I'm sure Bruce will correct me if I'm wrong on any point in this 
> FOHAT example.. 
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> Anyway Carlos:
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> THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE ABOVE.
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> Daniel
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