Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00055)

Carlos,

I want readers to make up their own minds concerning
what the Coulombs/Hodgson say.  It looks like both you and I
have made up our own minds and it looks like we both agree as
to the "truthfulness/falsity" of what the Coulombs say.

And in my book and as I have quoted from it more than
once, I warn the reader about the Coulomb material but
how can they make up their own minds if they do not read at least 
some of the material?

Since I quoted in my book defenders and supporters of HPB writing
about these Coulomb/Hodgson charges and even making comments
about some of the charges, doesn't it make sense to quote at
least some of the Coulomb/Hodgson material so the reader can
see what some of the charges were, the context, etc.??

You seem so afraid to let readers read for themselves, think
for themselves, and come to their own conclusions...

If some of the readers of my book come to the conclusion that
what the Coulombs and Hodgson say is true, then so be it.

I certainly would DISagree with them on that point and if they
contacted me I would try to show them why that conclusion is wrong,
at least in my opinion.

But these readers have a right to read the material, think about it
and come to whatever conclusion they do regardless of what you or I 
may think about it.

And I know a number of persons who have read the Coulomb book and 
the Hodgson report in their entirety and believe that Mme. Blavatsky 
was a fraud.  

I don't agree with their conclusions and I have from time to time 
tried to discuss with them why I think they are wrong, but these 
people are entitled to their own opinions and conclusions regardless 
of what I may think or what you believe is true.

I see no good in further discussing this particular point with you 
since you continue to distort what my true position is by saying I 
circulate slanders and lies.

It is too bad that you seem compelled to see me as the enemy but 
that is apparently your perception and you are entitled to it.

But I hope that at least some of the readers on this forum will see 
through the smoke screen of what your write.  If not, too bad 
because I cannot do other people's thinking for them.  I have enough 
of a problem trying to do my own thinking!!!

Daniel
http://hpb.cc












If that is what you call spreading lies and slanders then


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
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> Daniel,
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> What I say about Leadbeater is based in his own writings, properly 
quoted with references,  and in other ADYAR respected sources, like 
Mary Lutyens; and also on CWL's own confession as to abusing 
children, quoted from Josephine Ranson's book of Adyar's History. 
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> Please remember CWL was expelled by Olcott from the Adyar TS 
because of his "teachings" to young children. No one denies that. 
Hecame back after Olcott died. 
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> On the other hand, the slanders and lies you have been circulating 
for years against HPB are "obviously spurious", to quote Radha 
Burnier's letter to me. 
> Radha does not belong to the ULT. She presides Adyar TS. 
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> No one says the Coulombs were more than criminal blackmailers 
looking for money. If you would tell the truth about the Coulombs, 
you could not circulate their lies against the Masters, or against 
HPB.  
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> You keep ignoring the oceanic moral, intellectual, ethical and 
spiritual difference between CWL and HPB.
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> I invite you to recognize facts. No more than that. 
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> Regards, Carlos.  
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> Data:Mon, 01 May 2006 21:06:46 -0000
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> Assunto:Theos-World Carlos, a question for you
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> > Carlos, you write to me:
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> > "I invite you to abandon lies, slanders, and any efforts to sow
> > division, doubts, skepticism and hatred among theosophists and
> > theosophical groups."
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> > So when you have written all that you have about Leadbeater, his
> > activities and teachings and when you have written about what 
you 
> > think Besant and Olcott did to Judge, are you telling us that 
you 
> > don't consider any of that as an effort on your part "to sow 
division, 
> > doubts, skepticism and hatred among theosophists and 
theosophical 
> > groups"? 
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> > Just trying to clarify your thinking as given in what you wrote.
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> > Daniel
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