Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00763)

Dear Friends,

Daniel , see below, tries to put HPB and CWL on equal foot, as if they were at the same level.   

This is the "political goal" of Leadbeaterians. Yet  the matter of the fact is that what CW Leadbeater  OPENLY CONFESSED was enough for him to be EXPELLED from the Theosophical Society by Henry S. Olcott, nobody less.  

Gregory Tillett's book just documents and expands on these crimes against children, given disgusting details about them,  and it also clarifies many other falsehoods and wrong actions done by the "Bishop" Leadbeater., his false killing Indians in Brazil, his adulterating his birth date, and so on.

As to Cranston's biography, Mr. Gregory Tillett is entitled to comment it as he likes best -- what is the problem with that?  Yet Tillett did not mention any facts, no arguments, against "HPB",by Cranston.  

So, being Tillett a student who can think about himself, we cannot consider his position "firmly against Cranston" --  before he writes something more than two lines about Cranston's book. 

In fact, both Tillett's book on Leadbeater and Cranston's book on HPB are good and well-documented.  

Not a coincidence that there is no positive biography on Leadbeater around. And there is no text -- that I know -- defending CWL from Tillett's Biography "The Elder Brother".

He was an "outer head" of the Adyar E.S. for a short time, in 1933-34,  but no one showed up to defend him -- because facts are undeniable.  Trees can be knownby their fruits, and CWL's books are abandoned, while HPB's books sell more in more languages, and their main aaccusers, the SPR, dropped their charges. 


Regards,  Carlos. 











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Assunto:Theos-World Tillett and MacDonald on the Cranston biography of Blavatsky

> Before I quote what I am going to quote below, I would like
> to point out that Gregory Tillett has written an excellent
> biography of C.W. Leadbeater. I believe Carlos Aveline
> has praised this work and I wonder what Bruce MacDonald thinks
> of Tillett's biography. I view the work as both scholarly
> and readable and fair and balanced.
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> Yet there are students of Leadbeater who believe the
> Tillett work is unfair, very one-sided, negative and even
> hostile toward portraying the "true Leadbeater."
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> My point is that if one views Tillett's biography as fair
> and balanced, one would assume Tillett has a pretty good
> grasp of what makes for a fair and balanced biography.
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> Now let me therefore quote first what Tillett said on Theos-Talk
> last month about the Cranston biography:
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> I think that a serious, scholarly biography of Blavatsky (and I 
> don't think Meade accomplished that, but she's worthy of a Nobel 
> Prize compared with the shoddy hagiography produced by Cranston) or 
> an equally scholarly study of her foundation of the Theosophical 
> Society (and I don't think Johnson accomplished that, but compared 
> to his in-house competitors his name must be engraved on an Oscar) 
> would make for absolutely remarkable reading. She was a woman of such
> brilliance – and such eccentricity – that she is worthy of something 
> of equivalent brilliance and imagination. I only wish I was capable 
> of writing it! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/30788
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> Notice what Tillett writes about Cranston's biography:
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> "the shoddy hagiography"
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> Now compare all of the above with what Bruce MacDonald wrote just
> yesterday on Theos-Talk:
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> Cranston's biography expressed both respect and
> gratitude. However, other than this idealized life that Cranston
> presents, HPB's life is not really up for debate by theosophists. 
> That is not to say that the idealized version is not pretty 
> accurate, just that barring further facts there is little more to be 
> said. Cranston does put forward arguments that can openly be 
> debated, but the general facts concerning HPB's life are what they 
> are. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/32733
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> Actually I have heard some Leadbeater supporters in fact say that is 
> why they are so against the Tillett biography of Leadbeater. The 
> biography does NOT express both respect and gratitude for 
> Leadbeater, does not present "the idealized version" of Leadbeater.
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> I suspect that if Tillett did do a biography of Blavatsky that 
> Aveline and MacDonald would be as upset with it as many Leadbeater 
> students are upset with Tillett's THE ELDER BROTHER.
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> If that were their reactions, one might wonder why? If the 
> Leadbeater biography by Tillett is so wonderful, what's wrong with 
> the Blavatsky biography that Tillett might produce?
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> I realize that this is hypothetical but one can start by asking why 
> MacDonald thinks so highly of the Cranston biography and why Tillett 
> calls the Cranston biography "the shoddy hagiography."
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