Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00760)

Cass, 

My thesis is the the real 3rd volume is NOT missing,
we have it in the manuscript that was published in
1897 as the 3rd volume of the SD.  Of course, the E.S. Instructions 
and Inner Group material was added to this volume also.  But if you 
exclude this ES material the rest of the material in the volume
is the real 3rd volume.  And I carefully go over the evidence to 
show that.

Unfortunately, Carlos has totally misunderstood my thesis and is 
trying to say I accused HPB of falsehood.  This is total nonsense 
and hopefully other readers will see how false Carlos' statement is.

Daniel
http://hpb.cc


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
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> Anyone know what happened to the 3rd Volume of The Secret Doctrine 
as HPB said that it was almost completed.
> Cass
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> carlosaveline <carlosaveline@...> wrote: Chuck, Friends,
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> No doubt, Sylvia Cranston's book on HPB, which is a long 
biography, has a great value, just as Ernest Pelletier's book on 
William Judge (1,000 pp.) also has. 
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> And Tillett's book on Leadbeater, and Olcott's  "Old Diary 
Leaves", etc.
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> I guess Bruce's point is that we should also be able to discuss 
the philosophical aspects of the movement; its teaching, its 
message, its wisdom, its future. 
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> Bruce is right in the sense that we have been discussing too much 
of personalities and too litlle of contents.  
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> You are rightin the sense that understanding personality is an 
important part of the business.
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> By the way, HPB's intended third volume of the "Secret Doctrine" 
was to pay a lot of attention to Lives of Adepts -- individual 
lives, therefore.  There is something of that material in 
the "Collected Writings", volume XIV.  But she estudies lives of 
people with a philosophical approach.  Keeping to gossips and  
personality clashes is different. 
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> Yet even worse than keeping stuck to gossips about theosophical 
leaders, is to circulate wild and proved slanders about them, under 
the pretext of "letting people to decide for themselves". 
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> Now, studying their lives and learning from their experiences is 
really important. 
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> Regards,  Carlos.
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> C�pia:
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> Data:Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:57:43 EDT
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> Assunto:Re: Theos-World MKR, Bruce, Chuck and the Movement
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> > In a message dated 4/25/2006 7:50:10 PM Central Standard Time, 
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> > Some discussion is inevitable and even healthy, as Chuck says. 
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> > It is more than that, it is necessary. Theosophy did not spring 
from the 
> > void, nor did the Angel Gabriel look down on HPB and say, "Get 
to work!" 
> > Theosophy is not something set in stone, depending upon some 
holy writ that is 
> > unchanging and infallible. It is a process, a continuous 
development. And it 
> > is not a movement. The only movement we find in Theosophy 
usually comes not 
> > from the head or the heart but from another part of the anatomy. 
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> > Ideas have their roots in the experience of those who expound 
them. Be it 
> > the interminable wordiness of HPB, the wackiness of CWL, the 
sentimental 
> > lunacy of Annie Besant, the bizarre imaginings of Katherine 
Tingley etc. All have 
> > contributed and all have their weaknesses as well as strengths, 
foolishness 
> > as well as wisdom. But it is only studying the people behind the 
ideas that 
> > we can judge and understand the ideas.
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> > To ignore the personalities of Theosophy would reduce us to 
despicable 
> > bibliolators, worshipping the words with no understanding of 
what produced them.
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