Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00504)

A simple question, who is fuelling these debates?
Cass

carlosaveline <carlosaveline@terra.com.br> wrote: ON  IDENTIFYING CALDWELL 

Dear Friends,

An excellent contribution made by Sufilight, see below. 

It is easy to understand where do Paul Johnson, John Algeo, 
Gregory Tillet, Pedro Oliveira, Jerry Hejka-Elkins, Chuck the Heretic  and others,  stand.  

One can see that they  defend their own views and opinions. 

But how to locate Daniel Cadlwell? 

Sufilight writes: 

"It seems strange, that the Caldwell website devotes more info on internal 
debates between various theosophists disagreements and fractions 
disagreements and the like, than it does on the real enemies, namely the 
Jesuits. But maybe the dangerous enemies are already inside the gates of 
Theosophical teachings in the Caldwell camp."

Now, I aske myself: does that mean we should consider Daniel as directly linked to the Vatican, or to "Opus Dei"?  

Does nos seem too likely. Yet Daniel did not deny that he is a an Internet fraud, a troller  and a trickster, as suggested by Paul Johnson. A trickster who makes propaganda of slanders. 

I am curious about that.  I did not get to a conclusion yet, but I hope Saturn in transit in Leo will gradually help with that. 

Will Caldwell kindly clarify on that? 

Best regards,   Carlos. 

 







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Data:Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:08:26 +0200

Assunto:Re: Theos-World To Sufilight: Jesuits Online?

> Hallo Carlos and all,
> 
> My views are:
> 
> There is as far as I can tell not much info about the Jesuits on the 
> Caldwell website www.blavatskyarchives.com
> 
> As we know, the Jesuits are today the most dangerous group which the 
> theosophists faces.
> It seems strange, that the Caldwell website devotes more info on internal 
> debates between various theosophists disagreements and fractions 
> disagreements and the like, than it does on the real enemies, namely the 
> Jesuits. But maybe the dangerous enemies are already inside the gates of 
> Theosophical teachings in the Caldwell camp.
> Let me reformulate and say:
> I am not just looking after quotes from wellknown theosophists on a 
> theosophical website, but I am seeking that
> Daniel Caldwell's website and Daniel himself take a moral stance on his 
> website on the Jesuit issue.
> There is way to little info on the Jesuits on Caldwells website.
> Well, that is just little me, and my views and I do not even claim that I 
> have a Ph. D. or a M.A.D or anything like that.
> 
> 
> Did this help?
> 
> I will add som quotes in the below so to promote a present theosophical 
> stance on the matter.
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> 
> I will one more time repeat what Blavatsky said.
> An excerpt:
> THEOSOPHY OR JESUITISM? written by Blavatsky
> "Theosophy and Jesuitism are the two opposite poles, one far above,
> the other far below even that stagnant marsh. Both offer power--one to the
> spiritual, the other to the psychic and intellectual Ego in man. The former
> is "the wisdom that is from above . . . pure, peaceable, gentle . . . full
> of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy," while
> the latter is "the wisdom that descendeth not from above, but is earthly,
> sensual, DEVILISH."3 One is the power of Light, the other that of Darkness.
> . . ."
> http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/TheosophyOrJesuitism.htm (Published 
> in Lucifer 1888)
> 
> 
> H. P. Blavatsky says:
> "The words "Jesuit" and "Jesuitism" cover the whole ground. The Spirit of 
> Truth has departed ages ago - if it has ever been near it - from the Church 
> of Rome. "
> http://www.theosophical.ca/StarAngelWorship.htm
> 
> 
> Background on The Vatican's Secret Archives
> "In 1881, thanks to the generosity of Leo XIII, scholars were allowed free 
> access to the Vatican Secret Archives, thus becoming one of the most 
> important historical research centres in the world."
> http://asv.vatican.va/en/arch/1_past.htm
> 
> 
> Excerpts from The Vatican's statement on The essential matrix of New Age 
> thinking:
> "19th century esotericism is seen by some as completely secularised. 
> Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of traditional esotericism had 
> been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modern culture, including the 
> search for causal laws, evolutionism, psychology and the study of religions. 
> It reached its clearest form in the ideas of Helena Blavatsky, a Russian 
> medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry Olcott in New York in 
> 1875."
> ...and also...
> "However, it is well to be aware that the doctrine of the Christ spread in 
> New Age circles is inspired by the theosophical teachings of Helena 
> Blavatsky, Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy and Alice Bailey's "Arcane School". 
> Their contemporary followers are not only promoting their ideas now, but 
> also working with New Agers to develop a completely new understanding of 
> reality, a doctrine known by some observers as "New Age truth"."
> ...and also...
> "A prominent component of Mrs. Blavatsky's writings was the emancipation of 
> women, which involved an attack on the "male" God of Judaism, of 
> Christianity and of Islam. She urged people to return to the mother-goddess 
> of Hinduism and to the practice of feminine virtues. This continued under 
> the guidance of Annie Besant, who was in the vanguard of the feminist 
> movement. Wicca and "women's spirituality" carry on this struggle against 
> "patriarchal" Christianity today."
> 
> http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html
> 
> 
> Help us all:
> I would really like, as many comments on ALL the statements this link in the 
> above makes about The Theosophical Society, theosophy and Blavatsky.
> These comments could then, by someone, later be formed into an answer to the 
> Vatican and the Pope - and also a relevant newspaper or magazine (perhaps 
> Der Spiegel.)
> 
> This is theosophical thinking. It is much better than internal nitpickings 
> about who has written a lousy book about Theosophy or theosophy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just ask. I might be able to help you.
> 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "carlosaveline" 
> To: "theos-talk" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:13 PM
> Subject: Theos-World To Sufilight: Jesuits Online?
> 
> 
> Dear Sufilight,
> 
> Can you explain this question of yours addressed to Daniel?
> 
> "So Daniel, What do you have to say about the Jesuits online on your
> websites, - www.blavatskyarchives.com ???"
> 
> I missed something here...
> 
> Thanks a lot, Sufilight,
> 
> Carlos.
> 
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> Data:Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:16:07 +0200
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> Assunto:Re: Theos-World Did Jesus Exist and Who Is the Christ?
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> > Hallo Daniel and all,
> >
> > My views are:
> >
> > Yes.
> > There are good info and bad info in that link.
> >
> > I do support Jesus and Christ. But I do it using my own esoterical 
> > version.
> >
> > So Daniel, What do you have to say about the Jesuits online on your
> > websites, - www.blavatskyarchives.com ???
> > And please understand the thirst after compassion and altruism.
> > I am not looking after quotes from wellknown theosophists, but seeking 
> > that
> > you yourself take a moral stance on your website.
> >
> > The only link with online info on Jesuits I did find was this one:
> > http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/judgeelliotcoues.htm
> >
> >
> > ...Interesting views you have here Daniel Caldwell...
> > http://www.theosophycanada.com/fohat_daniel.htm
> >
> >
> > from
> > M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "danielhcaldwell"
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:53 PM
> > Subject: Theos-World Did Jesus Exist and Who Is the Christ?
> >
> >
> > > For a new website with a few recommended titles, see:
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> > > http://didjesusexist.info/
> > >
> > > For some of H.P. Blavatsky's comments on this subject,
> > > and a more comprehensive list of recommended material,
> > > see:
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> > > http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/jesuschrist.htm
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> > > Daniel
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