Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00492)

Daniel,

Of course.  I take care. 


I am a Pythagorean in my own limited way, so I keep a self-examination process going on all the time. 

You have been playing the role of a tester/trainer for the movement -- which is, in a way, useful. 

The peace in the heart of an aspirant can only be tested in action, so all of this in the Theos-talk is precisely the inner training one needs if one aspires to study Occult Philosopohy. 

In a way, it is a priviledge to know individuals like you and John Algeo (I'm thinking of Paul Jhnson's, Jerry's and Tillett's testimonies about him). 

And -- what about the Vatican? Do you think they are sad about your doings within the Theosophical Movement? 

Regards,  Carlos. 





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Data:Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:59:34 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Re: CALDWELL & THE JESUITS

> Carlos,
> 
> Conjure up in your mind the worst possible "image" 
> you have of me.
> 
> I'm probably then 10 times worst than that! Chuck
> comes in a poor second! :)
> 
> But Carlos remember what Master K.H. wrote:
> 
> "Every man has a potential Dugpa in him."
> 
> so don't conjure up my image too hard or it might
> awaken something in ---!! :) How's that Chuck???
> 
> Daniel W.A.L / B.M.F.
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
> >
> > ON IDENTIFYING CALDWELL 
> > 
> > Dear Friends,
> > 
> > An excellent contribution made by Sufilight, see below. 
> > 
> > It is easy to understand where do Paul Johnson, John Algeo, 
> > Gregory Tillet, Pedro Oliveira, Jerry Hejka-Elkins, Chuck the 
> Heretic and others, stand. 
> > 
> > One can see that they defend their own views and opinions. 
> > 
> > But how to locate Daniel Cadlwell? 
> > 
> > Sufilight writes: 
> > 
> > "It seems strange, that the Caldwell website devotes more info on 
> internal 
> > debates between various theosophists disagreements and fractions 
> > disagreements and the like, than it does on the real enemies, 
> namely the 
> > Jesuits. But maybe the dangerous enemies are already inside the 
> gates of 
> > Theosophical teachings in the Caldwell camp."
> > 
> > Now, I aske myself: does that mean we should consider Daniel as 
> directly linked to the Vatican, or to "Opus Dei"? 
> > 
> > Does nos seem too likely. Yet Daniel did not deny that he is a an 
> Internet fraud, a troller and a trickster, as suggested by Paul 
> Johnson. A trickster who makes propaganda of slanders. 
> > 
> > I am curious about that. I did not get to a conclusion yet, but I 
> hope Saturn in transit in Leo will gradually help with that. 
> > 
> > Will Caldwell kindly clarify on that? 
> > 
> > Best regards, Carlos. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Cópia:
> > 
> > Data:Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:08:26 +0200
> > 
> > Assunto:Re: Theos-World To Sufilight: Jesuits Online?
> > 
> > > Hallo Carlos and all,
> > > 
> > > My views are:
> > > 
> > > There is as far as I can tell not much info about the Jesuits on 
> the 
> > > Caldwell website www.blavatskyarchives.com
> > > 
> > > As we know, the Jesuits are today the most dangerous group which 
> the 
> > > theosophists faces.
> > > It seems strange, that the Caldwell website devotes more info on 
> internal 
> > > debates between various theosophists disagreements and fractions 
> > > disagreements and the like, than it does on the real enemies, 
> namely the 
> > > Jesuits. But maybe the dangerous enemies are already inside the 
> gates of 
> > > Theosophical teachings in the Caldwell camp.
> > > Let me reformulate and say:
> > > I am not just looking after quotes from wellknown theosophists 
> on a 
> > > theosophical website, but I am seeking that
> > > Daniel Caldwell's website and Daniel himself take a moral stance 
> on his 
> > > website on the Jesuit issue.
> > > There is way to little info on the Jesuits on Caldwells website.
> > > Well, that is just little me, and my views and I do not even 
> claim that I 
> > > have a Ph. D. or a M.A.D or anything like that.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Did this help?
> > > 
> > > I will add som quotes in the below so to promote a present 
> theosophical 
> > > stance on the matter.
> > > - - -
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I will one more time repeat what Blavatsky said.
> > > An excerpt:
> > > THEOSOPHY OR JESUITISM? written by Blavatsky
> > > "Theosophy and Jesuitism are the two opposite poles, one far 
> above,
> > > the other far below even that stagnant marsh. Both offer power--
> one to the
> > > spiritual, the other to the psychic and intellectual Ego in man. 
> The former
> > > is "the wisdom that is from above . . . pure, peaceable, 
> gentle . . . full
> > > of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without 
> hypocrisy," while
> > > the latter is "the wisdom that descendeth not from above, but is 
> earthly,
> > > sensual, DEVILISH."3 One is the power of Light, the other that 
> of Darkness.
> > > . . ."
> > > http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/TheosophyOrJesuitism.htm 
> (Published 
> > > in Lucifer 1888)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > H. P. Blavatsky says:
> > > "The words "Jesuit" and "Jesuitism" cover the whole ground. The 
> Spirit of 
> > > Truth has departed ages ago - if it has ever been near it - from 
> the Church 
> > > of Rome. "
> > > http://www.theosophical.ca/StarAngelWorship.htm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Background on The Vatican's Secret Archives
> > > "In 1881, thanks to the generosity of Leo XIII, scholars were 
> allowed free 
> > > access to the Vatican Secret Archives, thus becoming one of the 
> most 
> > > important historical research centres in the world."
> > > http://asv.vatican.va/en/arch/1_past.htm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Excerpts from The Vatican's statement on The essential matrix of 
> New Age 
> > > thinking:
> > > "19th century esotericism is seen by some as completely 
> secularised. 
> > > Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of traditional 
> esotericism had 
> > > been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modern culture, 
> including the 
> > > search for causal laws, evolutionism, psychology and the study 
> of religions. 
> > > It reached its clearest form in the ideas of Helena Blavatsky, a 
> Russian 
> > > medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry Olcott in 
> New York in 
> > > 1875."
> > > ...and also...
> > > "However, it is well to be aware that the doctrine of the Christ 
> spread in 
> > > New Age circles is inspired by the theosophical teachings of 
> Helena 
> > > Blavatsky, Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy and Alice 
> Bailey's "Arcane School". 
> > > Their contemporary followers are not only promoting their ideas 
> now, but 
> > > also working with New Agers to develop a completely new 
> understanding of 
> > > reality, a doctrine known by some observers as "New Age truth"."
> > > ...and also...
> > > "A prominent component of Mrs. Blavatsky's writings was the 
> emancipation of 
> > > women, which involved an attack on the "male" God of Judaism, of 
> > > Christianity and of Islam. She urged people to return to the 
> mother-goddess 
> > > of Hinduism and to the practice of feminine virtues. This 
> continued under 
> > > the guidance of Annie Besant, who was in the vanguard of the 
> feminist 
> > > movement. Wicca and "women's spirituality" carry on this 
> struggle against 
> > > "patriarchal" Christianity today."
> > > 
> > > 
> http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/docume
> nts/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Help us all:
> > > I would really like, as many comments on ALL the statements this 
> link in the 
> > > above makes about The Theosophical Society, theosophy and 
> Blavatsky.
> > > These comments could then, by someone, later be formed into an 
> answer to the 
> > > Vatican and the Pope - and also a relevant newspaper or magazine 
> (perhaps 
> > > Der Spiegel.)
> > > 
> > > This is theosophical thinking. It is much better than internal 
> nitpickings 
> > > about who has written a lousy book about Theosophy or theosophy.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Just ask. I might be able to help you.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > from
> > > M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "carlosaveline" 
> > > To: "theos-talk" 
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:13 PM
> > > Subject: Theos-World To Sufilight: Jesuits Online?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dear Sufilight,
> > > 
> > > Can you explain this question of yours addressed to Daniel?
> > > 
> > > "So Daniel, What do you have to say about the Jesuits online on 
> your
> > > websites, - www.blavatskyarchives.com ???"
> > > 
> > > I missed something here...
> > > 
> > > Thanks a lot, Sufilight,
> > > 
> > > Carlos.
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > Data:Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:16:07 +0200
> > > 
> > > Assunto:Re: Theos-World Did Jesus Exist and Who Is the Christ?
> > > 
> > > > Hallo Daniel and all,
> > > >
> > > > My views are:
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > > > There are good info and bad info in that link.
> > > >
> > > > I do support Jesus and Christ. But I do it using my own 
> esoterical 
> > > > version.
> > > >
> > > > So Daniel, What do you have to say about the Jesuits online on 
> your
> > > > websites, - www.blavatskyarchives.com ???
> > > > And please understand the thirst after compassion and altruism.
> > > > I am not looking after quotes from wellknown theosophists, but 
> seeking 
> > > > that
> > > > you yourself take a moral stance on your website.
> > > >
> > > > The only link with online info on Jesuits I did find was this 
> one:
> > > > http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/judgeelliotcoues.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ...Interesting views you have here Daniel Caldwell...
> > > > http://www.theosophycanada.com/fohat_daniel.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > from
> > > > M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "danielhcaldwell"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:53 PM
> > > > Subject: Theos-World Did Jesus Exist and Who Is the Christ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > For a new website with a few recommended titles, see:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://didjesusexist.info/
> > > > >
> > > > > For some of H.P. Blavatsky's comments on this subject,
> > > > > and a more comprehensive list of recommended material,
> > > > > see:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/jesuschrist.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > > http://hpb.cc
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