Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00422)

Carlos,

Oh good my reputation will then be really "bad" and Chuck
will not be the #1 bad guy on Theos-Talk!!

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OBTW Chuck, thanks for sending me that red cape.  I never
knew being a dugpa could be so much fun.  No wonder you
always have a grin!

Maybe Erica (on the other chat list....) could post your photo  
with your red cape too!  Send it to her!

Daniel W.A.L. Caldwell



 

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> 
> 
> Since Daniel likes gossips so much, I give him, see in another 
posting, a new copy of Paul Johnson's testimony on his own 
(Daniel's) possible fraudulent activites at the Internet.
> 
> Now, therefore, Daniel Caldwell will be able to update his 
gossips.  
> 
> Instead of 19th century ones,  he can explain his own present and 
recent activities and let us know whether he is such a compulsive 
liar as Vsevolod Soloviof , the Coulombs and similar persons. 
> 
> Personally, my main interest is still Theosophy and  Philosophy, 
not personality gossips.
> 
> Yet I recognize that if Daniel should result to be a fraudulent 
Internet troller afterall, he would have the MOTIVES to make so much 
propaganda about 19th century slanderers. 
> 
> Best regards,   Carlos.   
> 
> 
> De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Cópia:
> 
> Data:Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:14:38 -0000
> 
> Assunto:Theos-World Re: Daniel's Slanders
> 
> > Carlos,
> > 
> > You have such a limited vocabulary... :)
> > 
> > Aren't you curious about this letter given
> > in facsimile?
> > 
> > It may or may not have some relevance to
> > the Judge controversy. I don't know.
> > 
> > But it is interesting that this supposed
> > Mahatma letter surfaced in 1890 or before.
> > 
> > Where did it come from? 
> > 
> > Also interesting that Coues is apparently trying
> > to attribute it to Judge. I wonder if Besant
> > or Olcott was aware of this at this time or maybe later. 
> > 
> > And notice HPB's letter to Coues in 1889, she
> > is defending Judge. Is that slanderous gossip too???
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Dear Friends,
> > > 
> > > More slanderous gossips and lies over one hundred years old. 
> > > 
> > > Carlos. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > 
> > > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > 
> > > Cópia:
> > > 
> > > Data:Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:46:46 -0000
> > > 
> > > Assunto:Theos-World How did Coues have possession of this 
Mahatma 
> > Letter in 1890 or before?
> > > 
> > > > It would appear that as early as July 1890 
> > > > William Judge was accused of writing [forging]
> > > > Mahatma Letters.
> > > > 
> > > > Elliott Coues in The Sun (a major New York newspaper) 
> > > > on Sunday, July 20, 1890 (p. 17) was apparently
> > > > asked the following question:
> > > > 
> > > > "How about those 'Mahatmic' letters we heard so much about a 
> > while 
> > > > ago, such a one, for example, as the Chicago Tribune 
published 
> > in 
> > > > fac-simile?" asked the reporter.
> > > > 
> > > > Coues is reported as replying:
> > > > 
> > > > "Oh, you mean those Aids to Faith in Blavatsky which went 
the 
> > > > rounds? Here are a couple. They are at your service if you 
wish 
> > to 
> > > > print them. You see the envelope is a long narrow one made 
of 
> > thin, 
> > > > rough paper such as is commonly used in the East and stamped 
> > with 
> > > > some characters like those on a Chinese tea chest. The rice 
> > writing 
> > > > paper is heavy, with a smooth glaze, and has or did have a 
faint 
> > > > odor of sandal wood. The large red blotch on one of them I 
> > believe 
> > > > is simply the maker's or dealer's mark, but do not know. The 
wax 
> > > > seal on the other is the monogram of finger ring which once 
> > > > Blavatsky loudly protested in the columns of London Light, 
she 
> > alone 
> > > > possessed but of which Judge has a duplicate or a good 
> > imitation. 
> > > > The subject of the communication is simply bosh, as you 
> > perceive; 
> > > > the handwriting is almost unquestionably that of Mr. Judge, 
who 
> > is 
> > > > an expert penman." 
> > > > 
> > > > The 2 letters mentioned were reproduced in the "Sun" 
article. 
> > You 
> > > > can see the facsimiles at:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/coumah.htm
> > > > 
> > > > Some might be interested to compare the handwriting of the 
first 
> > > > letter given here with the facsimiles of later letters 
disputed 
> > > > after HPB's death and published in the Garrett book. See 
some 
> > > > reproductions in Pelletier's book on pages 358 and 356.
> > > > 
> > > > It would be interesting to have a documents expert compare 
the 
> > > > handwriting of the first letter [that Coues mentions] as 
given 
> > in 
> > > > the SUN article with the letter given in facsimile in 
Pelletier 
> > p. 
> > > > 358.
> > > > 
> > > > How did Coues receive the first letter given in facsimile at:
> > > > http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/coumah.htm
> > > > 
> > > > Did he receive it from Judge or from HPB or .....?
> > > > 
> > > > One important fact to keep in mind is that this letter 
surfaced 
> > > > during the lifetime of HPB and was apparently in Coues 
> > possession 
> > > > prior to July 20, 1890.
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder if Judge or HPB mentioned this letter in any of 
their 
> > > > letters in 1890 or 1891 before HPB died.
> > > > 
> > > > Daniel
> > > > http://hpb.cc
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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