Theos-Talk Archives (April 2006 Message tt00267)

As time passes, the decisive importance of the book "The Judge Case", by Ernest Pelletier (ETS, 2004)  will become clearer. 

In fact, that volume has many books in it. 

It is a tool to change the movement's history in the near future. To change it  gradually, yet effectively. 

Best regards,  Carlos. 


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Data:Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:14:31 -0600

Assunto:Theos-World Further notes on TJC

> Dear Daniel,
> 
> The “Supplement” to The Judge Case is an argument. Your criticisms have 
> nothing to do with
> that argument. You quibble over the irrelevant. Ernest Pelletier sets up 
> the letter to
> Khandalavala in chapter 5 of the “Supplement”. In it he introduces 
> Khandalavala and Ezekiel,
> and their connection to the letter and Judge’s reason for writing it, and 
> how it was used by the
> Indian members at that time. We read in TJC the first mention of the 
> September 21st date and its
> connection to Judge:
> 
> “No further documentation has been found to date regarding Judge’s stay at 
> Adyar after
> September 21st, 1884, the day after Babula, Blavatsky’s servant, arrived 
> from England. Most
> historians have assumed that Judge left India sometime in October but no 
> attention has been
> paid to what he did in the interim. There appear to be approximately 
> twenty-eight days which
> cannot be accounted for while he was there.” [TJC pt. 1, 334]
> 
> At the first mention of the Sept. 21st date, Pelletier states that “No 
> further documentation has
> been found to date ...” TJC was written over many years and I don’t think 
> anyone is going to
> blame an author for not finding “every” document that relates to the case. 
> The document you
> point to adds to the picture but does not hurt Pelletier’s argument as he is 
> concerned with the 28
> missing days beginning on September 29th. Pelletier then picks up on the 28 
> day theme again in
> Chapter 17. As we seem to both agree that nothing hinges on September 21st 
> as far as the Case
> goes, we can drop this matter.
> 
> The Judge Case and Judge’s diaries are two different issues. Judge defended 
> himself by using
> the bylaws of the Society. The issue of the Masters and phenomena were 
> ruled out of order and
> beyond the powers of any committee to investigate. Consequently, this was 
> why the charges
> were originally dropped. The only reason, that I can see, for the use of 
> the ES circular
> suspending Besant, was to provide motive for Besant’s renewed attacks. How 
> Judge came by the
> understanding that the Masters wanted him to suspend Besant is beyond the 
> scope of the book as
> I understand it. I agree with you that these documents will have to be 
> investigated at some point,
> however, TJC was not the correct venue for that. These documents have more 
> to do with both
> the ES and the inner workings of the New York Group. The Judge Case had to 
> do with the TS and its administration. It seems many people want to confuse 
> the two. It is in Pelletier’s favor that he made the distinction and 
> remained focused. A separate book can and should be done on the documents 
> in question.
> 
> TJC provides readers many new insights into this period of theosophical 
> history. There is still
> much more work to be done. As a point of interest concerning Besant, 
> readers could look at the
> following letter:
> 
> http://www.katinkahesselink.net/other/leadb2.html
> 
> In this letter, Leadbeater describes Besant’s first use of clairvoyance in 
> August 1895. If we look
> at this in a political context, we can see Besant unable to talk of such 
> things because of her
> pledge to the ES. Leadbeater, however, was not a member of the ES. He can 
> write a letter
> demonstrating Besant’s powers and, as the letter points out, her favored 
> status in the eyes of the
> Masters. Again, such an observation has no place in the legal arguments of 
> TJC, but it is
> certainly interesting in the wider context. At this point Besant had been 
> suspended from the ES,
> a suspension that she disputed, and here we see her bending the rules of the 
> ES in order to gain
> further credibility. There is still much to be written.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Bruce
> 
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