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RE: Realities of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas

Apr 06, 2006 05:18 PM
by W.Dallas TenBroeck


		 Realities of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas

Dear Z and friends:

I follow your many thoughtful contributions but have offered little so far
directly.

At the risk of being very repetitious, may I say that THEOSOPHY has, through
definitions that originate with HPB and others in the early days of its
literature, solved the problem of relating our experiences in consciousness
with a nomenclature presently used in psychology.  But the meanings differ
and have to be studied independently.

The 7-fold division of man and nature in terms of principles, capacities,
perceptions and “realities” have many correspondences and analogies.

Our modern psychology does not have these as a working basis.  Hence,
divergence of meanings and terms.

I send some of these for you to look at.

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1		WAKING CONSCIOUSNESS

	
        PERSONALITY -- LOWER MANAS


"PERSONALITY  	In Occultism--which divides man into 7 principles,
considering him under three aspects of the divine, the thinking or the
rational, and the animal man--the lower quaternary or the purely
astro-physical being;  while by 

INDIVIDUALITY	 is meant the Higher Triad, considered as a Unity.  Thus the
Personality embraces all the characteristics and memories of one physical
life, which the Individuality  is the imperishable Ego which re-incarnates
and clothes itself in one personality after another."	     T. GLOS. 252



"That which is known as YOU is the result of one continuous existence of an
entity.  Your present body and your soul (or the personality [KAMA-MANAN])
are the results of a series of existences.  

Your KARMA is a result of co-existence.  The individuality, or spirit, is
the cause of the soul and personality, or what is called "you."  You are the
manifestation of an entity and are the result of many appearances of that
entity upon this stage of action in various personalities”
.               W. Q. Judge ART., II, p. 452



"The astral through Kama (desire) is ever drawing Manas down into the sphere
of material passions and desires.  But if the better man or [PURE MANAS]
Manas tries to escape the fatal attraction and turns its aspirations to
Atma-Spirit--the Buddhi (Ruach) conquers and carries Manas with it [as
BUDDHI-MANAS] to the realm of eternal Spirit [ATMA]." 
  	 S D  I  p. 244-5



"The life principle acts from the time of fetal existence until death. The
lower principles are fed continuously during that time from the astral
plane;  that which constitutes the individual monad reincarnates at the time
of birth, but whether or not the highest principles may assimilate with the
germ during a lifetime, and to
which extent they will either assimilate or be lost, will depend on the will
and the exertions of the individual."   	THEOS. ART. & NOTES, p.
118-9



"From the fact that the soul (Higher Manas) is conjoined in the body with
the organ of thought (Lower Manas), and thus with the whole of Nature, lack
of discrimination follows, produces misconceptions of duties and
responsibilities."          PAT 24-5



"...the work of the soul [MIND] is to seek Wisdom, and the substance of
earthly wisdom is to know Universal Wisdom." 	MODERN PANARION, 379



"Since Manas [MIND], in its lower aspect, is the seat of the terrestrial
mind, it can, therefore, give only that perception of the Universe which is
based on the evidence of that mind;  it cannot give spiritual vision."
KEY 158



"...the soul [mind], in order to at last reach the objective plane its
experience is gained, places upon itself, one after the other, various
sheaths, each having its peculiar property and function.  The mere
physical brain is thus seen to be only the material organ first used
by the percipient in receiving or conveying ideas and perceptions;
and so with all the other organs, they are only eats for centralizing
the power of the real man in order to experience the modifications of
nature at that particular spot.

Who is the sufferer from this despondency?

It is the false personality...as distinguished from Krishna--the
higher self--which is oppressed by the immediate resistance offered by
all the lower part of our nature..."      G. NOTES  26



"Personality is always an illusion, a false picture hiding the reality
inside.  No person is able to make his bodily environment correspond
exactly to the best that is within him, and others therefore
continually judge him by the outward show.  If we try...to find the
divine in everything, we will soon learn not to judge by
appearances...do our duty without hope of reward and without trimming
ourselves with a desired result in view... "     G. NOTES  109



"...man...Spiritual Fire is its instructor (Guru)...This fire is the
higher Self, the Spiritual Ego [BUDDHI-MANAS], or that which is eternally
reincarnating under the influence of its lower personal Selves,
changing with every re-birth, full or Tanha or desire to live.

It is a strange law of Nature, that on this plane, the higher
(Spiritual) Nature should be, so to say, in bondage to the lower.

Unless the Ego takes refuge in the Atman, the ALL-SPIRIT, and merges
entirely into the essence thereof, the personal Ego may goad it to the
bitter end...

That which propels towards, and forces evolution, i.e.,
compels the growth and development of Man towards perfection, is 

(a)	the MONAD, or that which acts in it unconsciously through a force
inherent in itself;  and 

(b) the lower astral body or the personal SELF...

unless the higher Self or EGO [BUDDHI-MANAS] gravitates towards its Sun
[ATMA—the CENTRAL SPIRITUAL SUN wherein all being bathe and live] – the
Monad -- the lower Ego, or personal Self [KAMA-MANAS] , will have the upper
hand in every case.  

For it is this Ego, with its fierce Selfishness and animal desire to live a
Senseless life (Tanha), which is "the maker of the tabernacle" as Buddha
calls it...the Atman alone warms the inner man; i.e., it enlightens it with
the ray of divine life and alone is able to impart to the inner man, or the
reincarnating Ego, its immortality."              SD II 109-110



Q.:  Can there be Consciousness without Mind?)

 A.:  Not on this plane of matter.  But why not on some other and
higher plane?...On that higher plane ... Mahat--the great Manvantaric
Principle of Intelligence--acts as a Brain, through which the
Universal and Eternal Mind radiates the Ah-hi, representing the
resultant Consciousness or ideation.”              TRANSACTIONS,  p. 28


"...the higher Mind in Man, or his Ego (Manas) is, when linked indivisibly
with Buddhi, a spirit..."            T. GLOS 306-7


"...Occultism calls this the seventh principle [Atma], the synthesis
of the six, and gives it for vehicle the Spiritual Soul, Buddhi...in
conjunction these two are One, impersonal and without any attributes
(on this plane)..."      KEY, 120


"The SPIRITUAL divine EGO is the Spiritual Soul, or Buddhi in close
union with Manas, the mind-principle, without which it is no EGO at
all,  but only the Atmic Vehicle."      KEY 176


"Buddhi becomes conscious by the accretions it gets from Manas after
every new incarnation..."                          SD I 244
		[ see also H P B articles III, p. 265 ]


"Plato defines Soul (Buddhi) as "the motion that is able to move
itself."  "Soul"..."is the most ancient of all things, and the
commencement of motion," thus calling Atma-Buddhi "Soul,"... which we
do not."	        KEY 114


"It is by development that the soul becomes spirit, both being at the
lower and the higher rungs of one and the same ladder whose basis is
the UNIVERSAL SOUL or spirit."       HPB II 306


"...there is no impossibility in supposing [ that the Ego is a "god on
a higher plane"] so surrounded by the clouds of matter as to become
latent or hidden until the time when the form suitable for this plane
is evolved...that Ego, who is the Spectator of all things...[the Self]
..."   	 FORUM ANSWERS , 108


"...Pythagoras...described the Soul as a self-moving Unit (monad)
composed of 3 elements, the Nous (Spirit), the phren (mind), and the
thumos (life, breath or the Nephesh of the Kabalists), which 3
correspond to our "Atma-Buddhi," (higher Spiritual-Soul), to Manas
(the EGO), and to Kama Rupa in conjunction with the lower reflection
of Manas."                KEY 94


"The Ego does not enter the body at any time...the connection of the
Ego with the body--by means of the principle Manas--is made in
general, at seven years of age, and from then on the Ego is involved
or entangled in body.  But before such material entanglement it was
first caught and involved in the passions and desires...kama--which is
always the efficient or producing cause for the embodiment of the Ego.
This kama is known to form a part of the skandhas or aggregates, of
which the material body is one."        FORUM ANSWERS  p. 47


"...man...Spiritual Fire is its instructor (Guru)...This fire is the
higher Self, the Spiritual Ego, or that which is eternally
reincarnating under the influence of its lower personal Selves,
changing with every re-birth, full or Tanha or desire to live.  It is
a strange law of Nature, that on this plane, the higher (Spiritual)
Nature should be, so to say, in bondage to the lower.  Unless the Ego
takes refuge in the Atman, the ALL-SPIRIT, and merges entirely into
the essence thereof, the personal Ego may goad it to the bitter
end...That which propels towards, and forces evolution, i.e., compels
the growth and development of Man towards perfection, is (a) the
MONAD, or that which acts in it unconsciously through a force inherent
in itself;  and (b) the lower astral body or the personal
SELF...unless the higher Self or EGO gravitates towards its Sun--the
Monad--the lower Ego, or personal Self, will have the upper hand in
every case.  

For it is this Ego, with its fierce Selfishness and
animal desire to live a Senseless life (Tanha), which is "the maker of
the tabernacle" as Buddha calls it...the Atman alone warms the inner
man; i.e., it enlightens it with the ray of divine life and alone is
able to impart to the inner man, or the reincarnating Ego, its
immortality."                     SD II 109-110



MONAD (Gr)       The Unity, the one;  but in Occultism it often means
the unified triad, Atma-Buddhi-Manas, or the duad, Atma-Buddhi, that
immortal part of man which reincarnates in the lower kingdoms, and
gradually progresses through them to Man and then to the final
goal--Nirvana."    GLOS. 216


"MANAS is immortal, because after every new incarnation it adds to
Atma-Buddhi something of itself, and thus assimilating itself to the
Monad, shares its immortality.  Buddhi becomes conscious by the
accretions it gets from Manas after every new incarnation and the
death of man."        SD I 243-4


"Since Manas, in its lower aspect, is the seat of the terrestrial
mind, it can, therefore, give only that perception of the Universe
which is based on the evidence of that mind;  it cannot give spiritual
vision."    KEY 158



"The Universe (visible and invisible--compounded of purity, action and
rest)...exists for the sake of the soul's experience and emancipation...For
the sake of the soul alone, the Universe exists..."	       PAT 25-6


"the soul is the Perceiver;  is assuredly vision itself pure and simple;
unmodified;  and looks directly upon ideas."	PAT 26


"Spirit is universal...It cannot know itself except as Soul.  Spirit
is the "power to become;"  Soul is "the becoming."  Spirit is the
power to see and know;  Soul is the seeing and knowing.  Soul is the
accumulation of perceptions and experiences by means of which
Spiritual Identity is realized."    (see GLOS 306)    Q  & A  p.  21


"...a soul which thirsts after a reunion with its spirit, which alone
confers upon it immortality, must purify itself through cyclic
transmigration..."         KEY 111


"What then is the universe for, and for what purpose is man the
immortal thinker here in evolution?  It is all for the experience and
emancipation of the soul, for the purpose of raising the entire mass
of manifested matter up to the stature, nature, and dignity of
conscious god-hood.  The great aim is the reach self-consciousness;
not through a race or a tribe of some favored nation, but by and
through the perfecting, after transformation, of the whole mass of
matter as well as what we now call soul.  Nothing is or is to be left
out.  The aim for present man is his initiation into complete
knowledge, and for the other kingdoms below him that they may be
raised up gradually from stage to stage to be in time initiated also.
This is evolution carried to its highest power;  it is a magnificent
prospect;  it makes of man a god, and gives to every part of nature
the possibility of being some day the same;  there is strength and
nobility in it, for by this no man is dwarfed and belittled, for no
one is so originally sinful that he cannot rise above all sin."
	OCEAN, 60-1


"Starting upon the long journey immaculate;  descending more and more
into sinful matter, and having connected himself with every atom in
manifested Space--the Pilgrim, having struggled through and suffered
in every form of life and being, is only at the bottom of the valley
of matter, and half through his cycle, when he has identified himself
with collective Humanity.  This, he has made in his own image.  In
order to progress upwards and homewards, the "God" has to now ascend
the weary uphill path of the Golgotha of Life.  It is the martyrdom of
self-conscious existence.  Like Visvakarman he has to sacrifice
himself to himself in order to redeem all creatures, to resurrect from
the many into the One Life.  Then he ascends into heaven indeed;
where, plunged into the incomprehensible absolute Being and Bliss of
Paranirvana, he reigns unconditionally, and whence he will re-descend
again at the next "coming," which one portion of humanity expects in
its dead-letter sense as the second advent, and the other as the last
"Kalki Avatar."         SD I 268


"Theosophy considers humanity as an emanation from divinity on its
return path hereto.  At an advanced point upon the path, Adeptship is
reached by those who have devoted several incarnations to its
achievement...many incarnations are necessary for it after the
formation of a conscious purpose and the beginning of the needful
training..."    KEY 214-5



KAMA   	(Sk)  Evil desire, lust, volition;  the cleaving to existence.
Kama is generally identified with Mara, the tempter.”  	T. GLOS. 170



"Astral Soul," another name for the lower Manas, or Kama-Manas so-called,
the reflection of the Higher Ego."            T. GLOS  37


"From the fact that the soul (Higher Manas) is conjoined in the body
with the organ of thought (Lower Manas), and thus with the whole of
Nature, lack of discrimination follows, produces misconceptions of
duties and responsibilities."           PATANJALI,  p. 24-5


	THE ONE CONSCIOUSNESS

Krishna advises his friend to restrain the senses, and then to "strengthen
himself by himself." The meaning here is that he is to rely upon the One
Consciousness which, as differentiated in a man, is his higher self. By
means of this higher self he is to strengthen the lower, or that which he is
accustomed to call "myself." 

It will not be amiss here to quote from some notes of conversation with a
friend of mine. 

"OUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS ONE AND NOT MANY, nor different from other
consciousnesses. It is not waking consciousness or sleeping consciousness,
or any other but consciousness itself. 

"Now that which I have called consciousness is Being. ... 

"But THE ONE CONSCIOUSNESS OF EACH PERSON IS THE WITNESS OR SPECTATOR of the
actions and experiences of every state we are in or pass through. It
therefore follows that the waking condition of the mind is not separate
consciousness. 

"THE ONE CONSCIOUSNESS PIERCES UP AND DOWN THROUGH ALL THE STATES OR PLANES
OF BEING, AND SERVES TO UPHOLD THE MEMORY -- WHETHER COMPLETE OR INCOMPLETE
-- OF EACH STATE'S EXPERIENCES. 

"Thus in waking life, Sat experiences fully and knows. In dream state, Sat
again knows and sees what goes on there, while there may not be in the brain
a complete memory of the waking state just quitted. In Sushupti -- beyond
dream and yet on indefinitely, Sat still knows all that is done or heard or
seen.  ...

"The first step is giving up bad associations and getting a longing for
knowledge of God; the second is joining good company, listening to their
teachings and practicing them; the third is strengthening the first two
attainments, having faith and continuing in it. Whoever dies thus, lays the
sure foundation for ascent to adeptship, or salvation."   G  Notes,  pp.
98-100


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	PERFECTION REFLECTED IN THE MICROCOSM

( Judge, Articles    “THREE GREAT IDEAS")

Among many ideas brought forward through the theosophical
movement there are three which should never be lost sight of.
Not speech, but thought, really rules the world; so, if these
three ideas are good let them be rescued again and again from
oblivion. 

1.	The first idea is, that there is a great Cause - in the sense of
an enterprise - called the Cause of Sublime Perfection and Human
Brotherhood. This rests upon the essential unity of the whole
human family, and is a possibility because sublimity in
perfectness and actual realization of brotherhood on every plane of being
are
one and the same thing. All efforts by Rosicrucian, Mystic,
Mason and Initiate are efforts toward the convocation in the
hearts and minds of men of the Order of Sublime Perfection.

2.	The second idea is, that man is a being Who may be raised up to
perfection, to the stature of the Godhead, because he himself is
God incarnate. This noble doctrine was in the mind of Jesus, no
doubt, when he said that we must be perfect even as is the father
in heaven. This is the idea of human perfectibility. It will
destroy the awful theory of inherent original sin which has held and
ground down the western Christian nations for centuries.

3.	The third idea is the illustration, the proof, the high result of
the others. It is, that the Masters those who have reached up to what
perfection this period of evolution and this solar system will
allow are living, veritable facts, and not abstractions cold and
distant. They are, as our old H. P. B. so often said, living men. And she
said, too, that a shadow of woe would come to those who should
say they were not living facts, who should assert that "the
Masters descend not to this plane of ours." The Masters as living
facts and high ideals will fill the soul with hope, will themselves
help all who wish to raise the human race. …”  	WQJ 


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        LIGHTING UP OF MANAS ( THE HUMAN MIND )



"Just as milliards of bright sparks dance on the waters of an ocean
 above which one and the same moon is shining, so our evanescent
 personalities -- the illusive envelopes of the immortal MONAD-EGO --
 twinkle and dance on the waves of Maya. They last and appear, as the
 thousands of sparks produced by the moon-beams, only so long as the
 Queen of the Night radiates her lustre on the running waters of life:
 the period of a Manvantara; and then they disappear, the beams --
 symbols of our eternal Spiritual Egos -- alone surviving, re-merged
 in, and being, as they were before, one with the Mother-Source."
	 SECRET DOCTRINE, Volume I, p. 237.


"...divine man dwelt in his animal--though externally human --form;
and, if there was instinct in him, no self-consciousness came to
enlighten the darkness of the latent 5th principle [Manas].  When
moved by the law of Evolution, the Lords of Wisdom infused into him
the spark of consciousness, the first feeling it awoke to life and
activity was a sense of solidarity, of one-ness with his spiritual
creators.  

As the child's first feeling is for its mother and nurse, so the first
aspirations of the awakening consciousness in primitive man were for those
whose element he felt within himself, and who yet were outside, and
independent of him.  

DEVOTION arose out of that feeling, and became the first and foremost motor
in his nature;  for it is the only one which is natural in our heart, which
is innate in us, and which we find alike in human babe and the young of the
animal. This feeling of irrepressible, instinctive aspiration in primitive
man...  

It lives undeniably, and has settled in all its ineradicable
strength and power in the Asiatic Aryan heart from the 3rd Race direct
through it first "mind-born" sons,--the fruits of Kriyasakti.  As time
rolled on the holy caste of Initiates produced but rarely, and from
age to age, such perfect creatures:  beings apart, inwardly, though
the same as those who produced them, outwardly...the 3rd primitive
race...was called into being, a ready and perfect vehicle for the
incarnating denizens of higher spheres, who took forthwith their
abodes in these forms born of Spiritual WILL and the natural divine
power in man.  Its physical frame alone was of time and of life, as it
drew its intelligence direct from above.  

It was the living tree of divine wisdom;  and may therefore be likened to
the Mundane Tree of
the Norse Legend, which cannot wither and die until the last battle of
life shall be fought, and while its roots are gnawed all the time by
the dragon Niddhogg;  for even so, the first and holy son of
Kriyasakti had his body gnawed by the tooth of time, but the roots of
his inner being remained for ever undecaying and strong, because they
grew and expanded in heaven not on earth.  He was the first of the
FIRST, and he was the seed of all the others.  There were other "Sons
of Kriyasakti" produced by a second spiritual effort, but the first
one has remained to this day the Seed of divine Knowledge, the One and
the Supreme among the terrestrial "Sons of Wisdom."       SD I 210-211


"No sooner had the mental eye of man been opened to understanding,
than the Third Race felt itself one with the ever-present as the ever
to be unknown and invisible ALL, the One Universal Deity...feeling in
himself his inner God, each felt he was a Man-God in his nature,
though an animal in his physical Self... (SD II 272) the evolution of
Spirit into matter could never have been achieved;  nor would it have
received its first impulse, had not the bright Spirits sacrificed
their own respective super-ethereal essences to animate the man of
clay, by endowing each of his inner principles with a portion, or
rather, a reflection of that essence."       SD II 273



        INDIVIDUALITY --  HIGHER MANAS + BUDDHI + ATMA


"It may be conceived that the "Ego" in man is a monad that has
gathered to itself innumerable experiences through aeons of time,
slowly unfolding its latent potencies through plane after plane of
matter.  It is hence called the "eternal pilgrim."

The Manasic, or mind principle, is cosmic and universal.  It is the
creator of all forms, and the basis of all law in nature.  Not so with
consciousness.  Consciousness is a condition of the monad as the
result of embodiment in matter and the dwelling in a physical form.
Self-consciousness, which from the animal plane looking upward is the
beginning of perfection, from the divine plane looking downward is the
perfection of selfishness and the curse of separateness.  It is the
"world of illusion: that man has created for himself.  

"Maya is the perceptive faculty of every Ego which considers itself a Unit,
separate from and independent of the One Infinite and Eternal Sat or
'be-ness'"  The "eternal pilgrim" must therefore mount higher, and
flee from the plane of self-consciousness it has struggled so hard to
reach.

The complex structure that we call "Man" is made up of a congeries of
almost innumerable "Lives."...the "Eternal Pilgrim," the Alter-Ego in
man, is a monad progressing through the ages...The human monad or Ego
is...akin to all below it and heir to all above it, linked by
indissoluble bonds to (31) spirit and matter ...the Manasic, or mind
element, with its cosmic and infinite potentialities, is not merely
the developed "instinct" of the animal.  Mind is the latent or active
potentiality of Cosmic Ideation, the essence of every form, the basis
of every law, the potency of every principle in the universe....man
senses and apprehends nature just as nature unfolds in him.  When,
therefore, the Monad has passed through the form of the animal ego,
involved and unfolded the human form, the higher triad of principles
awakens from the sleep of ages and over-shadowed by the "Manasa-putra"
and built into its essence and substance."      WQJ ARTICLES,  I  29-31



"The Occultist would call the "Higher Ego" the immortal Entity, whose
shadow and reflection is the human Manas, the mind, limited by its
physical senses.  The two may be well compared to the Master-artist
and the pupil-musician...In the course of natural evolution our
"brain-mind" will be replaced by a finer organism, and helped by the
6th and the 7th senses.  Even now there are pioneer minds who have
developed these senses."
         HPB -- THEOS.  ARTICLES & NOTES  p. 208


"The supreme energy resides in the Buddhi, latent--when wedded to
Atman alone, active and irresistible when galvanized by the essence of
"Manas," and when none of the dross of the latter commingles with that
pure essence to weigh it down by its finite nature.  Manas, pure and
simple, is of a lower degree, and of earth earthy..."     M L p. 341-2


"From the fact that the soul (Higher Manas) is conjoined in the body
with the organ of thought (Lower Manas), and thus with the whole of
Nature, lack of discrimination follows, produces misconceptions of
duties and responsibilities."          PAT 24-5


"...the work of the soul is to seek Wisdom, and the substance of
earthly wisdom is to know Universal Wisdom."   MODERN PANARION, 379


        SOURCE OF THE SPIRIT IN MAN


"...The Host of Dhyanis, whose turn it was to incarnate as the Egos of the
immortal, but, on this plane, senseless monads--that some "obeyed" (the law
of evolution) immediately when the men of the 3rd Race became
physiologically and physically ready, i.e., when they had separated into
sexes.  These were those early conscious Beings who, now adding conscious
knowledge and will to their inherent Divine purity, created by Kriyasakti
the semi-Divine man, who became the seed on earth for future adepts.  Those,
on the other hand, who, jealous of their intellectual freedom  (unfettered
as it then was by the bonds of matter), said:--"We can choose...we have
wisdom,"...and incarnated far later--these had their first Karmic punishment
prepared for them.  They got bodies (physiologically) inferior to their
astral models, because their chhayas had belonged to progenitors of an
inferior degree in the 7 classes.  As to those "Sons of Wisdom" who had
"deferred" their incarnation till the 4th Race, which was already tainted
(physiologically) with sin and impurity, they produced a terrible cause, the
Karmic result of which weighs on them to this day...the bodies they had to
inform had become defiled through their own procrastination...This was the
"Fall of the angels," because of their rebellion against Karmic Law.  The
"fall of man" was no fall, for he was irresponsible..."            	SD
II 228


	COMMENTS  &  REFERENCES


There is the HIGHER SELF  ( Atma-Buddhi-Manas) and the LOWER SELF a kind of
reflection of the HIGHER in the conjoined principles of LOWER MANAS and KAMA
(DESIRES AND PASSIONS).


The first concept we need to grasp is the IMMORTALITY OF THE HIGHER SELF --
ATMA -- A "RAY" OF THE ONE spirit THAT PERVADES EVERY PART OF space.



REFERENCES

Perhaps the best is THE KEY TO THEOSOPHY by H.P.B. -- the duality and nature
of MONAS (Mind) is carefully described and its importance shown.
[  see pp. 90-3, 116-122, 135-6, 178-84,  158-9,  164-5,  188-90 ]


In the SECRET DOCTRINE,  Vol. II pp. 167,  225, 247, .254-5  H.P.B. explains
the nature of this duality.


In TRANSACTIONS OF THE BLAVATSKY LODGE,  H.P.B., answering the queries of
her students about the nature of CONSCIOUSNESS and DREAMS describes this
dual nature of Manas and the important nature of the inter-related dialogs
between the two -- 
see TRANS.  Pp.  65 to 77  (BCW  Vol. 10, pp. 252 -263.


It is an abstruse subject but is logically a part of the THREE FUNDAMENTALS
(  S.D.  I  14-19 )


It indicates that the whole of NATURE -- the UNIVERSE -- is a sensitive and
united WHOLE.  And that mankind represents a mid-way stage in the evolution
of UNIVERSAL WISDOM -- A SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS that enables the Individual
Spiritual Man to perceive and KNOW any detail of the past or present because
as a MONAD he/she is in immediate contact with every other Monad
and their stored and imperishable memories.

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Excuse me, I wish to share these with you, but not to argue over them.  

I am afraid that exact coincidences in words and meanings may escape  me /
us, but similarities and analogies may pave the way to mutual understanding.


Best wishes,

	Dallas
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From: zakk [mailto:seikar@adelphia.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:36 PM
To: Theosophy Study List
Subject: Re: Realities of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas

>There is no meaningful choice to be made if all realites are accepted
equally.  >
 
 According to the above, personal choice is not meaningful. Perhaps, 
as in most matters,  one should experience a matter in order to gain 
an understanding or meaning of it.  Also, perhaps not.
 An equal acceptance of realities may allow for an equal perception
making it multiple and perhaps also then leading to a simultaneous
experience and understanding.  Also, perhaps not.
 
>We only make choices to do something wnen we want to change something. 
When we choose to think that nothing needs changing, then essentially we 
choose to make no further choices. The choice to do nothing on the lower
four 
planes, when is based on a mindset in which nothing need to be done, results

in nirvana, and a similar choice to do nothing on all seven planes results
in 
paranirvana. This is what nirvana and paranirfvana mean. >
 
It is a view. There are others.

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