Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt01459)

But it's Saturday.

Vince

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Vince,
> 
> No thanks.  I might get mentally drunk.
> 
> Carlos.
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@...>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
> >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:22:00 -0000
> >
> >Carlos-
> >
> >No, I actually don't.  But I do think that some people can easily
> >get offended at other people's creative writing habits, if what is
> >written isn't quite what they want to hear.  Does that answer your
> >question?  I can elaborate in long stanzas for you if you'd like.
> >
> >Vince
> >
> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
> ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Vince,
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > By the way, I've got a question.
> > > Do you believe that people can get drunk with words, as they 
play
> >with them
> > > and get enthusiastic about their own abilities in making 
sentences?
> > >
> > > Regards, Carlos.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Theos-World Carlos- The virtue of literal 'truth' and
> >the evil of
> > > >'nonsense'
> > > >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:47:00 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Carlos
> > > >
> > > >I'm glad then that you didn't feel tricked.  Actually,
> > > >the 'nonsense' that I had originally presented was a type of
> > > >wordplay used somewhat as a literary device.  I forget the 
exact
> > > >terminology for such a literary device, but it is often used 
in
> > > >creative writing contexts, and sometimes even in debate or 
common
> > > >discussion.  What in effect actually happened is that someone
> >(I'll
> > > >not name who) had hyper-literalistically strained my 
wordplay, and
> > > >therefore had declared it to be 'absurd'.
> > > >
> > > >For example, I may make a statement such as 'I ate a whole cow
> > > >today'.  And indeed such a statement is absurd, especially to 
the
> > > >hyper-literalist.  Some literalists will actually be offended 
if I
> > > >say that 'I ate a whole cow today', when in reality I did not 
eat
> >a
> > > >whole cow today.  It vexes them in their respect for the high
> >virtue
> > > >of truth, and I am merely an ignorant purveyor of deceptive
> > > >falsehood to them, if I make such an absurd statement as 'I 
ate a
> > > >whole cow today'.
> > > >
> > > >Now such a statement as 'I ate a whole cow today' is not
> > > >intentionally meant to manipulate or decieve, notwithstanding 
the
> > > >fact that there are sometimes those literalists who will
> >inevitably
> > > >strain such a statement exceedingly, assuming that I actually 
ate
> >a
> > > >whole cow, or that I believe myself to have eaten a whole cow.
> >The
> > > >hyper-literalist, when assuming ignorance in the other person 
when
> > > >absurd statements are made, only vexes herself/himself, 
because
> >pure
> > > >truth has not been expressed.
> > > >
> > > >Vince
> > > >
> > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso 
aveline"
> > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Vincent,
> > > > >
> > > > > I did not feel tricked. And I do not enjoy "judging
> >personalities".
> > > > >
> > > > > I just saw you said --  sometimes you write some nonsense 
in
> >order
> > > >to
> > > > > measure people's reactions.
> > > > >
> > > > > That tends to be seen as a mental trick.
> > > > >
> > > > > In Theosophy, candidness, the ability to speak one's mind, 
to
> > > >write what one
> > > > > thinks and to think what one writes, is considered to be 
the
> >fuel
> > > >in the
> > > > > search for truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Otherwise you get trapped in closed circles leading to 
self-
> > > >delusion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ideally, there should be a sort of balance between words 
and
> > > >silence.
> > > > >
> > > > > All the best,  Carlos.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >Subject: Theos-World Re: Vincent Agnostic?
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:56:59 -0000
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >You wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Agnostics also do not play  mind tricks like the ones you
> >said
> > > >you
> > > > > >play, or are playing, here."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In what way did you feel tricked?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I've often classified Christian fundamentalists as the
> >tricksters,
> > > > > >but I suppose anyone can do it, agnostic or otherwise.  
And
> >indeed
> > > > > >they and we all do, whether we wish to acknowledge it or 
not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >By the way, are you familiar with the concept of the 
different
> > > > > >archtypes within humanity?  And their various pre-ordained
> >roles?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Vince
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso
> >aveline"
> > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vince,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Agnostics also do not play  mind tricks
> > > > > > > like the ones you said you play, or are playing, here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > >Subject: Theos-World To Carlos- Concerning Vince and 
Good
> > > > > >Christians-
> > > > > > > >Sorry, but I'm Agnostic
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:12:39 -0000
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >That's because I'm agnostic.  I am not a Christian.
> >Please
> > > >do not
> > > > > > > >misrepresent me.  I do not believe that a cosmological
> > > >supergod
> > > > > >can
> > > > > > > >be known by mortal humanity.  Thank you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline 
cardoso
> > > >aveline"
> > > > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dear Vince,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cass is right.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What you do, according to your own words, does not
> >seem to
> > > >be
> > > > > > > >honest. Or
> > > > > > > > > Christian.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@>
> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Hi there, I'm Vince 
and
> >I am
> > > >new
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > >the group
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:44:49 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Manipulation
> > > > > > > > > >Cass
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Vincent <vblaz2004@> wrote: Chuck-
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Don't worry.  It all comes around again.  I'll get
> >mine.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >I usually am committed to an intelligent 
discussion,
> >but
> > > > > > > >sometimes I
> > > > > > > > > >intentionally throw an absurd statement into the
> >works for
> > > > > >fun.  I
> > > > > > > > > >really don't mean to work people up, but some 
people
> >just
> > > >get
> > > > > > > > > >absolutely offended if I venture to say something
> >stupid.
> > > > > >Then I
> > > > > > > > > >see the person's disposition when they either 
laugh or
> > > >rage.
> > > > > >A
> > > > > > > > > >rather curious thing, don't ya think?  What might
> >cause
> > > >that?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@ 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 9:32:46 PM Central
> > > >Standard
> > > > > >Time,
> > > > > > > > > > > vblaz2004@ writes:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And you  fell for it?  I'm surprised that you 
would
> > > > > >respond so
> > > > > > > > > > > seriously to  that, lolol.  Satire.  Irony.
> >Sarcasm.
> > > > > > > >Lighten  up.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I did!  Hook, line sinker and boat!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You got me good.
> > > > > > > > > > >
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