Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt01174)

	I am not going to teach you evolutionary theory from the ground up. 
However, I will state that, in the idea of "survival of the fittest", 
the term "fittest" has a specific meaning other than what is normally 
associated with "superiority", and the idea of individuals in a species 
being "fittest" was discarded decades ago.

	Bart

Vincent wrote:

> Bart-
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> You wrote:
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> "Maybe because the only people making that claim are those who are 
> disputing it?"
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> An assumption on your part.  And a projection.  I've commonly been 
> shown linear timelines on evolutionary development that show only 
> one line of progression, as opposed to two lines.  Namely, from ape 
> to human, as opposed to apes and humans from a common ancestor.  My 
> assessment is that many scientists today have simply veered from 
> Darwin's original theories.
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> Perhaps you can do a little better than narrow-minded 
> presuppositions and actually answer questions when they are posited, 
> if indeed you have an answer.  Your misrepresentation is not a valid 
> debate tactic, if in fact you are attempting to validate some point.
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> You also wrote:
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> "...demonstrate that you know little about evolutionary theory."
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> Then explain your stance and why you believe it, instead of simply 
> resorting to petty intellectual condescension.  When you make a 
> scientific assertion, then back it up, instead of just expecting me 
> to believe it like the dogmatic religionists do.  I think that 
> you're just offended that I didn't take your word for it.  And 
> instead of actually presenting a case for your assertions, you 
> prefer to use a mode of counter-attack through the use of 
> misrepresentation and intellectual condescension.  It's not working 
> here.  Try again.
>
> Vince
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Bart Lidofsky <bartl@...> wrote:
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> > Vincent wrote:
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> > > Well, I've had some minor debate with scientists before over 
> > > internet forums, and when the concept of genomes was brought up 
> to 
> > > me, it seemed to show little more than a familial relation 
> between 
> > > humans and apes, but no actual evidence that humans had actually 
> > > evolved from apes.  
> > 	Maybe because the only people making that claim are those 
> who are 
> > disputing it? This, and...
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> > > You can tell an ape's evolutionary superiority above humans by 
> their 
> > > advanced stregth and agility.  Apes are clearly superior to 
> humans 
> > > in many ways, and so it only stands to reason that apes 
> descended 
> > > from humans.  The similarity in the genones clearly evidences an 
> > > interfamilial relation.
> > 	...demonstrate that you know little about evolutionary 
> theory.
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> > 	Bart
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