What is the "Magnetic Trap" ?
Mar 20, 2006 10:31 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline
Dear friends,
I have to thank Krsanna for bringing here one of my personal messages to
her, so that I can
clarify a couple of important issues and the concept of magnetic trap.
I wrote to Krsanna, in a personal communication:
"If you have the patience and compassion necessary to help more in the
disruption of such a magnetic TRAP, I guess it will be a significant
SERVICE to the cause of truth."
Disrupting a "magnetic trap" is not disrupting the list.
"Disrupting the magnetic trap" is, as I believe I made clear in the last few
weeks, disrupting the illusion that CWL's Theosophy is as authentic as HPB's
Theosophy.
And Krsanna helped that.
Why the expression "magnetic trap"? Because those who get interested in
Theosophy enter into the Adyar Society and their loyalty is gradually
transferred from the Abstrat Ideal and from the CAUSE to the Corporation,
to the ritual, often to Masonty and Liberal Catholic Church.
This, I see as a trap.
Because you cannot see that step by step the commitment you had with the
ideal of universal brotherhood gets trapped and prisoner inside a
bureaucratic organization.
The expression "small revolution" means the process of intense debate we
were living on theosophy and pseudo-theosophy.
As to the feeling of "magnetic trap" -- I first felt it with regard to
Co-Masonry, where people go from one "degree" to another "degree", getting
more and more involved in the magnetism of
Leadbeaterian magnetism.
This magnetic trap (which we can also call "morphic field trap" to use
Rupert Sheldrake's expression) is probably responsible for the fact that
many Adyar TS members, when confronted with facts, cannot actually react as
truth-seekers.
Many of them will react in a defensive way and reject a calm examination of
facts. I myself was rather slow in reacting to facts, because "loyalty to
the Society" was mixed with my "loyalty to the CAUSE".
Another level of ritualistic trap is the "Egyptian Rite", about which
Gregory Tillett, Ramón Sordo and Geoffrey Farthing wrote.
Showing illusions as they are, or disrupting them, was and is my goal. In
the process, my own self-illusions get exposed and I learn more.
Loyalty to the institutions in themselves is the "magnetic trap". We should
be able to be "loyal to the CAUSE".
Best regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline.
From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Carlos' intent to disrupt on this list
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:50:49 -0800 (PST)
Chuck
Can't wait to see what you do with this one.
Cass the Dugpa!
krsanna <timestar@timestar.org> wrote: Dear All -- Carlos private emails
asking for my help to "disrupt"
the "magnetic trip" on this list and inviting me to come to his aid
by joining it are copied below. I was interested in the dynamics of
the list for a chapter I am writing on "Plausible Deniability."
The "sacred task" Carlos had assumed by fighting the war might
provide a good study. I was curious about the magnetic war that
Carlos was fighting and how he handled it.
His paranoid conviction that jesuitical dugpas had infiltrated the
list and he had to disrupt them was fascinating. Carlos
said, "Theos-talk used to be controlled by Daniel you-know-whom." I
had never heard of Daniel Caldwell before Carlos introduced his
name.
Did Carlos intend to disrupt the magnetic trap and take control of
the list as he claimed Daniel had done? Carlos certainly believed I
was gullible enough to take his claims without examining them more
objective.
The first false claim that Carlos made is that there are 500 people
on the list. There were 306 people, including myself, when I joined
on February 25 and there were 306 people this morning, March 18.
Either the list has lost about 40% of its members since Carlos last
looked, or Carlos imagined a much greater audience than actually
exists.
Carlos' revelation that his work on this list is a "sacred task" is
a measure of his own messianic zeal to start a revolution with the
list by disrupting it. Instead of jumping into Carlos' magnetic war
to fight the jesuitical dugpas he imagined lurked with the trolls, I
watched Carlos. His desire to be relevant, as all things in the
cosmos are relevant, is a great study. Declaring the relevance of
dogs in the world, he has not yet told me when he last took a stray
dog to a veterinarian.
I've gotten some really great material for "plausible deniability"
while on this list. Should I linger to watch Carlos employ his
version of a magnetic war? Carlos' war is far more irrelevant than
he imagines.
Carlos' emails to me with the headers showing dates follow.
Best regards,
Krsanna Duran
-----Original Message-----
From: carlosaveline cardoso aveline
[mailto:carlosaveline@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:13 AM
To: timestar@timestar.org
Subject: RE: Hey from Krsanna Duran
Dear Krsanna,
Would you join Theos-talk? We are promoting a small revolution
there. Five hundred people take part.
If you want to join, Dallas Tenbroeck can tell you how.
I hope to hear from you on that.
Best regards, Carlos.
-----Original Message-----
From: carlosaveline cardoso aveline
[mailto:carlosaveline@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:52 AM
To: timestar@timestar.org
Subject: Private Message to Krisanna
Krsanna,
For years Theos-talk used to be controlled by Daniel you-know-whom.
Perhaps half of the 500 people belong to Adyar, and most of the 500
do not know the extension of CWL's treason.
This is an opportunity for them to know that.
Your recent postings were most helpful in that hard but significant
and to me sacred task.
The movement as a whole must know what CL did in order to get rid
from from the organizative/bureaucratic traps he created for
thousands and thousands of SOULS, generation after generation, since
he first controlled the Adyar ES by 1900.
If you have the patience and compassion necessary to help more in
the disruption of such a magnetic TRAP, I guess it will be a
significant SERVICE to the cause of truth.
On the other hand�sorry, can you give me the meaning of the
word "chummy"?
And --- you say:
"I'd like to do a chart of key issues that HPB and the Mahatmas
concentrated on then show the positions that Sinnett, Leadbeater and
Besant took on the same issues. This would demonstrate the point
that these individuals acted in opposition to theosophical teachings
while calling their practices theosophy."
I made that chart with some 11 points in 1999-2000, wrote to Joy
MIlls, he wrote I was right and aksed to keep quiet! Now the points
are dozens.
I am focussing the main absurds from Adyar, one by one, in Theos-
talk, almost every day.
Later on I will have all of them in my computer.
You can help discuss them, bring more items, enlighten their real
meaning, etc.
Really GOOD to have you at Theos-talk. Can you tell me a little bit
about you?
Carlos.
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