Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt00842)

Dear Friends,


About computers, I have finally reached that highest
peak of wisdom at which we say,with Socrates:

"I only know that I know nothing."

Carlos.




> From: "krsanna" <timestar@timestar.org>
> Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Carlos -- IP addresses compared with Daniel 
> Caldwell
> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:05:29 -0000
>
> Bill -- I appreciate knowing the background of your discovery of the
> IP addresses.  I discussed the IP situation for about 18 hours.
> Carlos subsequently caught sight of the issue the next day and
> revived it by asking about it.
>
> I always post directly on Yahoo's server, because I use several
> different computers.  It looks like Daniel Caldwell may have been
> doing the same thing.
>
> Thar ya go!
>
> Krsanna
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Bill Meredith <meredith_bill@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Krsanna,
> >
> > Perhaps I should explain further.
> >
> >  I had just downloaded a test version of emailtrackerpro and was
> testing
> > e-mail headers with it.
> >
> > Why was I looking at message headers?   Because  I don't believe
> that
> > Daniel Caldwell would abandon
> > his turf just because he was called out for possibly using e-mail
> > aliases in the past.
> >
> > Why did I list only your and Daniel's nearly identical IP's?
> Because
> > your "originating IP"  was the only one I  found that
> > was nearly identical to Daniel's of  those theos-talkers posts
> which I
> > had in my (limited) inbox (about 25 different contributors, as I
> recall).
> > I knew that I was working with a very small database sample. I was
> very
> > careful not to accuse anyone of anything and I appreciate that
> > you did not read anything into my post other than my apparent and
> > admitted ignorance of the complexity of IP addressing.
> > I reiterate that no harm was intended and no accusations were made
> or
> > implied.  I simply posted what I found in  hopes that someone
> > would be able to explain it to me in layman's terms.
> >
> > You and John went beyond the call of duty in providing me with
> plenty of
> > internet pages that I could look to
> > for an answer.  With your guidance, I did look and I did find an
> answer
> > which I reported here that same day.  Since that first day,
> > largely through the use of humor, it has been you that has kept
> this
> > "irrelevancy" alive.
> >
> > Again I thank you for your help.
> >
> >
> > bill
> >
> > krsanna wrote:
> > > Carlos -- The IP addresses for Daniel Caldwell compared to the
> IP
> > > addressed I use.  It is the YAHOO IP, because we both posted on
> the
> > > Yahoo server.  In fact, the header actually identifies the IP as
> > > Yahoo.
> > >
> > > This is an example of the irrelevancy I mentioned in an earlier
> > > post.  It was the subject of numerous posts and meant absolutely
> > > nothing except that members of the list did not understand they
> were
> > > looking at Yahoo's IP address.
> > >
> > > On the inner level we are all one.  It's the application that's
> in
> > > question.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Krsanna
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Bill Meredith
> <meredith_bill@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I see what you mean about the squeezing.  Here are the
> pertinent
> > >>
> > > lines
> > >
> > >> from the 4 messages.
> > >>
> > >> ----
> > >>
> > >> *X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.41*
> > >> X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0
> > >> X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 4.227.160.7
> > >> *From: "krsanna" <timestar@>*
> > >>
> > >> ----
> > >> *X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.38*
> > >> X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:7:0:0
> > >> X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.9.23.244
> > >> *From: "danielhcaldwell" <danielhcaldwell@>*
> > >>
> > >> ----
> > >> *X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.35*
> > >> X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0
> > >> X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 150.131.77.108
> > >> *From: "krsanna" <timestar@>*
> > >>
> > >> ----
> > >> *X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.44*
> > >> X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0
> > >> X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 69.9.23.244
> > >> *From: "danielhcaldwell" <danielhcaldwell@>*
> > >> ----
> > >>
> > >> The "danielcaldwell messages were received in January of this
> > >>
> > > year.  The "krsanna" messages
> > >
> > >> were received in the past few days.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I do not presume to know how you and Daniel share a nearly
> > >>
> > > identical originating IP.  I do not
> > >
> > >> even know if that is significant in the world of cyberspace and
> > >>
> > > internet communications.  I
> > >
> > >> simply found it interesting.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps you can explain, if you think it worthwhile.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> bill
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> krsanna wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Bill -- Squeezing the addresses together makes them hard to
> > >>> identify.  I believe variations in the last two digits occurs
> > >>>
> > > with
> > >
> > >>> dynamic IP addresses, where a larger provider has a block of
> > >>> addresses.  This is in contrast to static addresses that are
> > >>>
> > > fixed.
> > >
> > >>> At least two of the addresses look like mine.  Let me know
> what
> > >>>
> > > you
> > >
> > >>> figure out.
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> > >>> Krsanna
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