Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt00583)

Folks, I hate to butt into this argument, but it's gone so far off base that 
I can't avoid commenting.   

As for Carlos... 

Your response below is both arrogant, ad hominem, and stupid... Since Bill 
sees you exactly as your are (as I have also pointed out in the past, and I'm 
sure many of us also see)... And you have no reasonable argument to prove any of 
us wrong.

When are you going to quit this constant provocation, based on your personal 
opinions and animosities, as well as faulty memory, presumptive and gossipy 
attacks, coupled with illogical reasoning?   

Harping on past mistakes or circumstances that can't be changed and 
constantly berating people you dislike, as well as fomenting personal arguments with 
them, will get you nowhere -- except to turn everyone off that might have had 
some respect for you as a theosophically knowledgeable teacher or guide. 

Face it, and get off our backs -- unless you have something positive to say 
that might help members of this forum fulfill the objects of the Theosophical 
Movement, or give us a better understanding of Theosophy, its fundamental 
principles and its metaphysical realities.   

LHM


 

In a message dated 3/12/06 1:29:50 PM, carlosaveline@hotmail.com writes:


> Bill,
> 
> Your level of  truthfulness is still below the sea level
> 
> but your language seems to have improved. Carlos.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Bill Meredith <meredith_bill@earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Carlos smells the flowers
> >Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:46:54 -0500
> >
> >Carlos,
> >
> >  You say that I mention "H. P. Blavatsky's stinking corpse."  You use
> >quotation marks around this sentence as though you are quoting me
> >directly and accurately.  Do you even realize that you are not?   You
> >are quoting your inaccurate recollection of what you thought I must have
> >said, based on your psychological need to dismiss me as an insignificant
> >disturbance to your world-view.  If your memory were accurate, or if you
> >bothered to check your facts you would also note that it was Steve and
> >not Chuck who tried to remind me that HPB's body was cremated.  Pointing
> >out  these erroneous recollections of yours is important.   In doing so,
> >I am giving you the opportunity to realize that  when you are not
> >looking,  a part of you is reinterpreting and rearranging the actual
> >events of the past  into a satisfactory bouquet  that smells like
> >spring-time to you.
> >
> >In addition, despite my subsequent efforts to identify my post as a
> >directly proportional parody of  the "nice" post you sent about your
> >brother Paul and my admitting forthrightly that in my post I was telling
> >lies at about the same rate as you, and despite my further comments to
> >clarify that my reference to decaying corpse and dead carcass was a
> >metaphor for her body of literature ( an admittedly failed metaphor for
> >sure), you choose to ignore these points because you do not wish to see
> >your post to Paul for what it really is (an attempt to shoot the
> >messenger), but instead wish to remember it only  for what you intended
> >it to be (a defense of HPB).
> >
> >We each have a human tendency to reconstruct history to suit our
> >present  needs.  Some are aware of this tendency, while others continue
> >in ignorance.
> >
> >peace,
> >
> >
> >bill
> >
> >
> >
> >carlosaveline cardoso aveline wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > You seem to be liking to tell "killing stories" lately. (See below.)
> > >
> > > A few days ago, in one of your nice messages to me, you mentioned "H. P.
> > > Blavatsky's
> > > stinking corpse".
> > >
> > > Soon after that, Chuck the Heretic tried to remind you of the well-known
> > > fact that HPB's body was cremated.
> > >
> > > Since you insist in bringing our dialogue to this level, you will not
> >mind
> > > if I ask you something.
> > >
> > > Instead of mentioning HPB's physical body after death,  it makes much
> >more
> > > sense if you think of your own stinking corpse, doesn't it?
> > >
> > > "Mind your business first"  is always a good piece of advice.
> > >
> > >
> > > Peace to all beings, Carlos.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: Bill Meredith <meredith_bill@earthlink.net>
> > >> Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Subject: Re: Theos-World Shooting messengers vs producing the goods
> > >> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:53:50 -0500
> > >>
> > >> Once upon a time there was a man who traveled from his own country 
> >into
> > >> the world known as the Land of Theosophists.
> > >> He saw a number of people running in terror from a library where they
> > >> had been trying to Study Theosophy.  "There is a Heretic in that
> > >> library," they told him.  He looked, and saw that it was a scholarly
> > >> messenger.
> > >>
> > >> He offered to kill the "Heretic" for them.  When he had finished
> > >> "shooting the messenger,"  he declared the body of work that remained
> > >> anathema and burned the books.  Seeing his skill at killing and
> >burning,
> > >> the people were sorely afraid and cried out, "he will kill us and burn
> > >> our books next unless we get rid of him."  But they were weak and so
> > >> they lived and died in their own fear doing as the stranger told them.
> > >>
> > >> It so happened that at another time another man also wandered into the
> > >> Land of Theosophists and the same thing started to happen to him.  But,
> > >> instead of offering to kill the "heretic," he told them they were
> >living
> > >> in relative illusion and he went into the library and studied  with the
> > >> heretic.  No one was killed and no books were burned.   By his bold
> > >> example he taught them the basic fact which would enable them not only
> > >> to conquer their fear of "heretics"  but also their illusions about
> > >> truth and heresy.  This enabled them to  live  at  peace with all
> > >> beings  in  the Land of Theosophists.
> > >>
> > >> Morten -  yes I know you care.  You know that I do care, too.  How are
> > >> the "rugrats" these days?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> peace,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> bill
> 



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