Re: Theos-World Ramana Marharshi & The Universe/double occupation/Ramana
Mar 09, 2006 02:43 PM
by krishtar
Dear Netemara
Fine?
I enjoyed your comments regarding my speculative thoughts.
Double occupation from one monadic ray is possible too, for those monads who
have this work to do on earth. just like HBP did, but as my doubt is, I
have not followed all the recent posts, which book are you referring to,
Netemara?
Another theory I have is that , if for some reason HPB were still alive, she
would be bannished as much as Osho was from the places he had been to,
because he
also had the same way of express things that she had got , always directly,
not
taking care about formal or mundane hierarchies any much .
Osho , like Ramana, never wrote any book, all his interviews and lectures
were recorded and turned into books.
- Presently there are huge arguments and attorney battles worldwide to
decide
who gets the profits on the large sellings from Bhagwan Sri Rajneesh (lol)-
Some may believe in those prefab accusations against Osho as much as the
accusations done to HPB´s reputation, but if one reads the essence of both
teachings and works, one may know the truth of who is whom.. We usually know
the tree by the fruits...don´t we?
Regards
Krishtar
----- Original Message -----
From: "netemara888" <netemara888@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Ramana Marharshi & The Universe
This is a nice, but speculative post, about a possible RM, and CWL
thoughts on when and where HPB returned. Here is what shocks...HPB
is not the one who had just left or redirected herself back into a
Hindu body. Read the book and find out who did. Actually it is
posted on ttt if you look hard enough for it.
It has been a very long time since HPB has been an Indian.
What many have not investigated, or experienced is the phenomenon
of "double occupancy." Therefore it is impossible for anyone to know
of the advanced and their "body placement" at any given time or life-
-only the person who has been on the inside of those bodies will
know and can reveal.
They "break the body rules" not kidding. This is what made my
research difficult at first. The "laws" have been written and HPB's
past lives, all of them have been found and recorded.
Netemara
-
-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Iain" <ibse03888@...> wrote:
Kristar wrote , that the Sage of Arunachala.
"the only thinks he preached were through silence"
Is this Portugese Silence or English Silence? and, What is the
Diference!?
cheers Iain
----- Original Message -----
From: "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" <carlosaveline@...>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:19 PM
Subject: Theos-World Ramana Marharshi & The Universe
>
> Krishtar,
>
> Sri Ramana Maharshi wrote.
> And he taught to his disciples.
> There are many books with his oral teachings both in English and
in
> Portuguese.
> I will bring here a small bibliography about him -- tomorrow,
since I am
> not at home now.
> Ramana Maharshi's teachings have many points in common with
HPB's
> Theosophy
> --- as I
> see it.
> And his disciple Paul Brunton wrote some important books, too,
with no
> need to use the label "theosophical". Things go beyond names,
of course.
> There is a lot of untheosotphical things under theosophical
names, and
> most
> theosophical books don't use this "label". For instance, the
neostoic
> philosopher Epictetus
> can be considered a "theosophist" in the real sense of the word.
And many,
> many others...
>
> Carlos.
>
>
>>From: krishtar <krishtar_a@...>
>>Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Krishnamurti & The Universe
>>Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:30:16 -0300
>>
>>Carlos wrote, among other things:
>>"For instance, Ramana Maharshi taught them in the 20th century."
>>
>>Hi, amigo
>>
>>Who are you talking about: Bhagawan Sri Ramana Maharshi, the
Sage of
>>Arunachala?
>>What is the source of that information?
>>The only things he preached were through silence, and just for
>>illustrating,
>>according to a book from A.Orborne he was once asked by a seeker
if
>>theosophy was something good, all he said was a "yes".
>>If you have any further information to offer me on this
particular, I
>>thank
>>in advance.
>>By the way...
>>It´s very curious that Ramana had his first enlightenment ( that
>>near-death-like experience) just at the same time lapse HPB had
passed
>>away.
>>He was never the same person anymore.
>>I once read that CWL stated that HPB would be reborn under a
hindu young
>>boy...
>>Maybe he was half-right in certain aspects...
>>
>>Krishtar
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" <carlosaveline@...>
>>To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:38 PM
>>Subject: Theos-World Krishnamurti & The Universe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Cass,
>>
>>Yet the Advaita system teachs the seven principles/ levels of
>>consciousness
>>pretty much as HPB did (not a coincidence), while Krishnamurti
never
>>understood, much less taught the seven principles.
>>
>>For instance, Ramana Maharshi taught them in the 20th century.
>>
>>Seven principles are essential, as by understanding them you
have the key
>>of the correlation between the micro (a human individual) and
the macro
>>(solar system and the universe).
>>
>>Krishnamurti was rather shallow with his doctrine according to
which the
>>"I"
>>is bad.
>>
>>The importance of the correlation man/universe explains why
studying the
>>"Secret Doctrine".
>>It is a form of Jnana Yoga.
>>
>>We are a summary of the universe, and the cosmos is an amplified
picture
>>of
>>each one of us.
>>
>>A mirror of one's soul.
>>
>>
>>Best regards, Carlos.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@...>
>> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Krishnamurtian Dogma?
>> >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:16:24 -0800 (PST)
>> >
>> >I tend to agree with Morten, in that Krishnamurti's latter
teachings
>> >were
>> >the recycling of the Advaita system. However, I believe, in
the early
>>days
>> >he did contribute towards humanity in exposing the emotional
baggage
>> >that
>> >we carry with us, and how important it is to recognize this,
without
>> >judgement, in order to see ourselves as we are. I certainly
got much
>> >out
>> >of the First and Last Freedom.
>> >
>> >Cass
>> >
>> >carlosaveline cardoso aveline <carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >Dear Cass,
>> >
>> >I know next to nothing about Gurdgieff.
>> >
>> >But a long standing leader of the Adyar Society gave me an
image to
>>define
>> >Krishnamurti with few words: he is like the typical Indian
Swami, who
>>goes
>> >about hammering one sole point, surrounded by his own
unconditional
>> >supporters and worshippers. The main role of these followers
is to
>> >endlessly repeat the Swami's words, while they try to
hipnotize
>>themselves
>> >and others with these same unchanging words/ideas.
>> >
>> >
>> >Best regards.
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: Cass Silva
>> > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>> > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>> > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Krishnamurtian Dogma?
>> > >Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:27:19 -0800 (PST)
>> > >
>> > >Perhaps rather than creating his own dogma, it was created
around him.
>> > >Same thing with Gurdgieff???
>> > >Cass
>> > >
>> > >carlosaveline cardoso aveline wrote:
>> > >
>> > >Cass,
>> > >
>> > >Yet he created his own Krishhamurtian dogma.
>> > >Krishnamurtians usually don't read authors other than him.
>> > >They are usually not open to debate -- at least some of them.
>> > >Not all, of course.
>> > >
>> > >Best -- carlos.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: Cass Silva
>> > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>> > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>> > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: Esoteric School
>> > > >Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:42:17 -0800 (PST)
>> > > >
>> > > >It appears that Krishnamurti denied the necessity for a
dogmatised
>> > >"school
>> > > >of thought" around his system.
>> > > >Cass
>> > > >
>> > > >carlosaveline cardoso aveline wrote:
>> > > >Damian,]
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >I guess Gregory has given a thorough answer to the
question.
>> > > >
>> > > >Comparatively, in the Adyar Society the Esoteric School
continued,
>>yet
>> > >the
>> > > >fancies about outer contacts with the Masters were quietly
dropped
>>rom
>> > > >1953,
>> > > >except for Geoffrey Hodson in Australia, a rather national
>>phenomenon,
>> > >or
>> > > >at
>> > > >least a phenomenon with poor international dimension.
>> > > >
>> > > >J. Krishnamurti, very influential with regard to Radha
Burnier,
>>wanted
>> > >the
>> > > >E. S. Adyar to
>> > > >be closed (there is at least one public source for that,
Mary
>>Lutyens).
>> > > >Yet
>> > > >he did
>> > > >not have that.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Best regards, Carlos.
>> > > >
>> > > > >From: D P
>> > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > >Subject: Theos-World Pasadena Esoteric School
>> > > > >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:43:57 +0100 (CET)
>> > > > >
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inside of
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