Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt00391)

> Read the book and find out who did. Actually it is 
> posted on ttt if you look hard enough for it. 
> 

Netemara,

What book are you talking about? And what  the phenomenon 
of "double occupancy"?

Thanks,

Dave


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "netemara888" <netemara888@...> 
wrote:
>
> This is a nice, but speculative post, about a possible RM, and CWL 
> thoughts on when and where HPB returned. Here is what shocks...HPB 
> is not the one who had just left or redirected herself back into a 
> Hindu body. Read the book and find out who did. Actually it is 
> posted on ttt if you look hard enough for it. 
> 
> It has been a very long time since HPB has been an Indian.
> 
> What many have not investigated, or experienced is the phenomenon 
> of "double occupancy." Therefore it is impossible for anyone to 
know 
> of the advanced and their "body placement" at any given time or 
life-
> -only the person who has been on the inside of those bodies will 
> know and can reveal. 
> 
> They "break the body rules" not kidding.  This is what made my 
> research difficult at first. The "laws" have been written and HPB's 
> past lives, all of them have been found and recorded.  
> 
> Netemara
> 
> 
> -
> 
> -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Iain" <ibse03888@> wrote:
> >
> > Kristar wrote , that the Sage of Arunachala.
> > "the only thinks he preached were through silence"
> > Is this Portugese Silence or English Silence? and, What is the 
> Diference!?
> > cheers Iain
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" <carlosaveline@>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:19 PM
> > Subject: Theos-World Ramana Marharshi & The Universe
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Krishtar,
> > >
> > > Sri Ramana Maharshi wrote.
> > > And he taught to his disciples.
> > > There are many books with his oral teachings both in English 
and 
> in
> > > Portuguese.
> > > I will bring here a small bibliography about him  -- tomorrow, 
> since I am
> > > not at home now.
> > > Ramana Maharshi's teachings have many points in common with 
> HPB's 
> > > Theosophy
> > > --- as I
> > > see it.
> > > And his disciple Paul Brunton wrote some  important books, too, 
> with no
> > > need to use the label "theosophical".  Things go beyond names, 
> of course.
> > > There is a lot of untheosotphical things under theosophical 
> names, and 
> > > most
> > > theosophical books don't use this "label".  For instance, the 
> neostoic
> > > philosopher Epictetus
> > > can be considered a "theosophist" in the real sense of the 
word. 
> And many,
> > > many  others...
> > >
> > > Carlos.
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: krishtar <krishtar_a@>
> > >>Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >>Subject: Re: Theos-World Krishnamurti & The Universe
> > >>Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:30:16 -0300
> > >>
> > >>Carlos wrote, among other things:
> > >>"For instance, Ramana Maharshi taught them in the 20th century."
> > >>
> > >>Hi, amigo
> > >>
> > >>Who are you talking about: Bhagawan Sri Ramana Maharshi, the 
> Sage of
> > >>Arunachala?
> > >>What is the source of that information?
> > >>The only things he preached were through silence, and just for
> > >>illustrating,
> > >>according to a book from A.Orborne he was once asked by a 
seeker 
> if
> > >>theosophy was something good, all he said was a "yes".
> > >>If you have any further information to offer me on this 
> particular, I 
> > >>thank
> > >>in advance.
> > >>By the way...
> > >>It´s very curious that Ramana had his first enlightenment ( that
> > >>near-death-like experience) just at the same time lapse HPB had 
> passed
> > >>away.
> > >>He was never the same person anymore.
> > >>I once read that CWL stated that HPB would be reborn under a 
> hindu young
> > >>boy...
> > >>Maybe he was half-right in certain aspects...
> > >>
> > >>Krishtar
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" <carlosaveline@>
> > >>To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > >>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:38 PM
> > >>Subject: Theos-World Krishnamurti & The Universe
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Dear Cass,
> > >>
> > >>Yet the Advaita system teachs the seven principles/ levels of 
> > >>consciousness
> > >>pretty much as HPB did (not a coincidence), while Krishnamurti 
> never
> > >>understood,  much less taught the seven principles.
> > >>
> > >>For instance, Ramana Maharshi taught them in the 20th century.
> > >>
> > >>Seven principles are essential,  as by understanding them you 
> have the key
> > >>of the correlation between the micro (a human individual) and 
> the macro
> > >>(solar system and the universe).
> > >>
> > >>Krishnamurti was rather shallow with his doctrine according to 
> which the
> > >>"I"
> > >>is bad.
> > >>
> > >>The importance of the correlation man/universe explains why 
> studying the
> > >>"Secret Doctrine".
> > >>It is a form of Jnana Yoga.
> > >>
> > >>We are a summary of the universe, and the cosmos is an 
amplified 
> picture 
> > >>of
> > >>each one of us.
> > >>
> > >>A mirror of one's soul.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Best regards,  Carlos.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@>
> > >> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Krishnamurtian Dogma?
> > >> >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:16:24 -0800 (PST)
> > >> >
> > >> >I tend to agree with Morten, in that Krishnamurti's latter 
> teachings 
> > >> >were
> > >> >the recycling of the Advaita system.  However, I believe, in 
> the early
> > >>days
> > >> >he did contribute towards humanity in exposing the emotional 
> baggage 
> > >> >that
> > >> >we carry with us, and how important it is to recognize this, 
> without
> > >> >judgement, in order to see ourselves as we are.  I certainly 
> got much 
> > >> >out
> > >> >of the First and Last Freedom.
> > >> >
> > >> >Cass
> > >> >
> > >> >carlosaveline cardoso aveline <carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >Dear Cass,
> > >> >
> > >> >I know next to nothing about Gurdgieff.
> > >> >
> > >> >But a long standing leader of the Adyar Society gave me an 
> image to
> > >>define
> > >> >Krishnamurti with few words: he is like the typical Indian 
> Swami, who
> > >>goes
> > >> >about hammering one sole point, surrounded by his own 
> unconditional
> > >> >supporters and worshippers. The main role of these followers  
> is to
> > >> >endlessly repeat the Swami's words,  while they try to 
> hipnotize
> > >>themselves
> > >> >and others with these same unchanging words/ideas.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Best regards.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >From: Cass Silva
> > >> > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Krishnamurtian Dogma?
> > >> > >Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:27:19 -0800 (PST)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Perhaps rather than creating his own dogma, it was created 
> around him.
> > >> > >Same thing with Gurdgieff???
> > >> > >Cass
> > >> > >
> > >> > >carlosaveline cardoso aveline  wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Cass,
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Yet he created his own Krishhamurtian dogma.
> > >> > >Krishnamurtians usually don't read authors other than him.
> > >> > >They are usually not open to debate -- at least some of 
them.
> > >> > >Not all, of course.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Best -- carlos.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >From: Cass Silva
> > >> > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: Esoteric School
> > >> > > >Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:42:17 -0800 (PST)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >It appears that Krishnamurti denied the necessity for a 
> dogmatised
> > >> > >"school
> > >> > > >of thought" around his system.
> > >> > > >Cass
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >carlosaveline cardoso aveline  wrote:
> > >> > > >Damian,]
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >I guess Gregory has given a thorough answer to the 
> question.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Comparatively, in the Adyar Society the Esoteric School 
> continued,
> > >>yet
> > >> > >the
> > >> > > >fancies about outer contacts with the Masters were 
quietly 
> dropped
> > >>rom
> > >> > > >1953,
> > >> > > >except for Geoffrey Hodson in Australia, a  rather 
national
> > >>phenomenon,
> > >> > >or
> > >> > > >at
> > >> > > >least a phenomenon with poor international dimension.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >J. Krishnamurti, very influential with regard to Radha 
> Burnier,
> > >>wanted
> > >> > >the
> > >> > > >E. S. Adyar to
> > >> > > >be closed (there is at least one public source for that, 
> Mary
> > >>Lutyens).
> > >> > > >Yet
> > >> > > >he did
> > >> > > >not have that.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Best  regards, Carlos.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >From: D P
> > >> > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > > > >Subject: Theos-World Pasadena Esoteric School
> > >> > > > >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:43:57 +0100 (CET)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >Hi! I am researching a little about Esoterics Schools 
> inside of 
> > >> > > > >the
> > >> > > > >Theosophical Movement then this is a question for 
Carlos 
> Aveline 
> > >> > > > >or
> > >> > > >another
> > >> > > > >member of the list. C. Aveline wrote �if I remind 
well-
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> > >> >Esoteric
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