Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt00368)

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Ramana  Maharshi, Advaita Vedanta and J. Krishnamurti

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Dear Krishtar,


The Advaita Vedanta has a clear notion of the seven principles as taught by 
H. P. Blavatsky (and therefore is much better than the narrow views of Mr. 
Krishnamurti). This can be seen at Swami Vivekananda’s book “Quatro Yogas de 
Auto-Realizaçăo”, Ed. Pensamento, SP, Brazil, p. 18.

J. Krishnamurti hasn’t even a clear notion about higher or true Self and its 
dynamic equation with the outer personality.

Ramana Maharshi is, to my view,  a profound Jnana Yogi, and HPB defined her 
written works as very much Jnana Yoga., too.

There are various levels of Jnana Yoga and HPB worked at a more reasoned, or 
manasic,  level.  Yet Ramana was not only silence. Numerous disciples of his 
had questions and answers put on paper and  transformed in books.  Ramana 
wrote and translated classical texts. Arthur Osborne published his 
“Collected Works” in one volume.  Ramana’s  Jnana Yoga points to the 
awakening  of one’s higher self.  Paul Brunton published a volume entitled 
“Conscious Immortality” which transcribes his splendid conversations with 
Ramana. In Brazil you have “Ensinamentos Espirituais”, by Ramana (Cultrix), 
an excellent book.

Ramana teaches about Skandhas, reincarnation, vegetarianism, meditation, 
dhyana and samadhi,  the eight limbs of yoga,  and many other subjects --  
in a way to my view compatible with HPB’s teachings.  His Jnana, in general, 
remembers one of HPB’s “Diagram of Meditation” (See her “Inner Group 
Teachings”, Point Loma Publications, CA, 1985).

And,  of course, the way HPB recommends “The Secret Doctrine” should be read 
 -- taking in consideration all the time the essential unity of  each one 
with the entire cosmos -- is also highly similar,  at the occult level, to 
Ramana’s philosophy.

HPB’s systematic use of questions has a correspondence in Ramana’s technique 
of constantly questioning  “Who Am I?”. For both of them,  questions may be 
more important than the verbal answers.  Most of Ramana’s teachings are in 
the  form of questions and answers, as HPB’s “The Key to Theosophy” and 
several other texts.

Ramana was generally  laconical about rational aproaches to Jnana. Yet each 
time he accepted  to use  concepts, he was very precise and clear, something 
which cannot be said of Jiddu Krishnamurti.

Ramana Maharshi was a Brahmacharia, while Krishnamurti had a complicated 
love affair with the wife of one of his best friends, his right-hand, Mr. 
Rajagopal --  something which ended up in an ugly lawsuit and fight  for 
money,  while Theosophists all over  the  world were kept disinformed by 
Krishnamurti’s immediate disciples,  and  went on thinking  Krishnamurti was 
a Brahmacharia, and indeed a high Initiate!

Mary Lutyens,  Krishnamurti’s main biographer and closed  friend, wrote a 
book dedicated to his  emotional complications,  entitled “Krishnamurti and 
the Rajagopals” (published  by Krishnamurti Foundation of America, 1996, 
129pp).

As to Ramana’s teachings, they are  really profound in my view.


Best regards,    Carlos Cardoso Aveline.

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