Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt00202)

John -- Your question regarding "various magnitudes of order" was 
not answered directly, because, unfortunately, I got caught up in 
explanations about moons.  Your question is a good one.  The answer 
is "yes."  Values of multiples of 1080 and 2160 can reflect various 
magnitudes of order for various calculations.  The source of the 
template is pyramid builders as mysterious as the Theosophical 
Adepts who have never been identified, but left their mathematical 
signature in the pyramids at Teotihucan.   

I believe Teotihuacan was one of the centers of wisdom that 
Blavatsky was looking for when she came to America in 1851, but it 
had not been excavated at the time of her visit.  Only after I had 
responded to your question did I realize you may have been 
reflecting on articles I've posted about variable uses of 2160 on my 
web site.  These articles are vague because I had not yet published 
the pieces that tie the variables together, and my intent in the 
articles was to point out a few numbers then clarify them later.  
The confusion is my error.     
  
Educaton is the difference between tribes with no counting system 
and those who invented zero more than 1,000 years before it migrated 
into Europe.  Native tribes from Alaska to Argentina share distinct 
DNA yet developed vastly different levels of culture.  

The source of the education was pyramid centers that encoded and 
delivered education to the native people.  This is why I've found 
the same numbers encoded in Teotihuacan and in Vedic literature, as 
shown in the excerpt I posted.  Knowing the numbers and knowing the 
calculations are different ballgames, and that's the trail to the 
mystery.  

Best regards,
Krsanna


JOHN WROTE:

"The American Indians I guess were fond of the expression "Many 
Moons ago" the question may be what is the actual time value of a 
Moon if the moon is 2160 miles and a sign of the zodiac is 2160 
years, the values of multiples of 1080 and 2160 can have various 
magnitudes of order?"

KRSANNA WROTE:



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "krsanna" <timestar@...> wrote:
>
> Don't ya love the correlations?  There's one point I want to bring 
> out, with all due respect for your observations, which genuinely 
> appreciate.  Like virtually all ancient peoples, American Indians 
> used lunar calendars throughout the Americas.  The Lakota named 
> months for events occurring in the lunar period, e.g., the moon of 
> cherry blossoms.  The assumption that everybody knew about the 
Mayan 
> timekeeping took over 400 years to get straight, and is still an 
> area of misunderstanding.
> 
> Variances in knowledge among tribes is enormous.  Zero around 300 
> B.C. in central Mexico where pyramid centers were built; the 
> Blackfeet didn't even have counting system and were nomadic.  When 
> the political boundaries were drawn, they got rooted down in 
> Montana.  
> 
> Central Mexico was the center of learning for many tribes in what 
is 
> now North America as well as Mexico.  Teotihuacan was an ancient 
> initiation center of learning, with permanent living quarters for 
> some distant tribes that visited.  Teotihucan had distant 
embassies 
> with other tribes, such as one in Guatemala among the Quiche Maya. 
> The existence of Teotihuacan's embassies is a fairly recent 
> discovery of the last few decades.
> 
> The Maya were a pantribal order of scholars that included 
> timekeepers and pyramid builders that were highly trained and 
> comparable to a mystery school.  While everybody in an area might 
> know how to name a month, only trained scholars knew timekeeping.  
> Timekeepers were selected in childhood and prepared for the finely 
> skilled work of their lives.  
> 
> Assuming that one savage was the same as the next savage, the 
> Conquistadores memorialized wildly wrong information by asking 
local 
> dignitaries, like a local chieftan, who should be highly 
> knowledgeable in the Conquistadores organizational system, to tell 
> them about the calendar.  An old chief, who might know next to 
> nothing about the calendar would explain the way he thought things 
> worked to the Conquistadores 
> 
> Wildly inaccurate information the Conquistadores acquired from 
> anyone standing near a pyramid was not recognized for what it was 
> until about 1950 when Eric Thompson finally deciphered the ancient 
> calendar to discover that it was based on the most accurate and 
> sophisticated astronomy that existed in the world at the time.
> 
> When the Conquistadores asked who built the pyramids, for example, 
> and the native people said the Maya were the builders, the idiots 
> from Europe thought the Maya were a tribe.  The Maya were not a 
> tribe and the term is still badly abused.  There are more than 35 
> native tribes in Guatemala but only one order of pantribal Maya 
that 
> have managed to survive as a distinct order of scholars.  The 
Mayan 
> calendar remains the most sophisticated calendar that is poorly 
> understood, even by modern descendants of what are commonly called 
> the Maya now.  
> 
> Genetics is not a good transmitter of astronomy.  When the ancient 
> centers of learning were closed after Conquest, the knowledge they 
> contained became as scrambled as anything Rome has to offer.  
That's 
> why it's taken almost 500 years to decipher the calendar, and it 
is 
> still not complete.   
> 
> As far as the five-year cycle is concerned, it is a very important 
> count.  The five-pointed star was an important symbol in the 
Apache 
> medicine wheel as well.  
> 
> Let me know if you think of anything else.
> 
> Best regards,
> Krsanna
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, samblo@ wrote:
> >
> > Krsanna,
> >    I was meaning to get back to you about your "excerpt" I found 
> it very 
> > interesting reading and have saved it to my Documents, thanks 
for 
> posting it. Also 
> > "1080" is the Lunar Radius so the Ecliptic cycle could be viewed 
> as a 
> > multiple as a thumbnail system. The American Indians I guess 
were 
> fond of the 
> > expression "Many Moons ago" the question may be what is the 
actual 
> time value of a 
> > Moon if the moon is 2160 miles and a sign of the zodiac is 2160 
> years, the 
> > values of multiples of 1080 and 2160 can have various magnitudes 
> of order?
> > 
> >    Another thing that arose in my mind reading your post in 
> particular to the 
> > "five years cycle" mentioned therein was the appearance of the 
> images of the 
> > five Kachina Deities that come directly out of the sphere of the 
> Sun as seen 
> > in the Apache Spirit Mountain Ghost Dancers as an important and 
> significant 
> > portion of the ceremonial rite. Additionally in the Mahabharata 
I 
> have seen a 
> > correlatively similar scene, five Devas come directly out of the 
> sphere of the 
> > Sun and descend to stand upon the Earth on front of important 
> personages of the 
> > Mahabharata, I just wanted to tell you about that.
> >    The moon 216 sexigesimal (6x6x6) x 10 =2160 lunar Diameter = 
> Zodiac Sign. 
> > The speed of the Earth in it's orbit is 18.5 miles/sec=1110 
miles 
> per minute x 
> > 60 =66,600 miles per hour. In the Magic Squares for the Sun and 
> Moon there 
> > are values. Sun, Moon, Earth, Unity of Three, Pyramid of Life 
and 
> Wisdom. Ask 
> > bill Hamilton some time, we had a way of translating Long/Lat. 
to 
> time day date 
> > and place.
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
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