Theos-Talk Archives (February 2006 Message tt00617)

Hello Gregory and All,
While it maybe true that CWL never claimed adeptship as far as I know, he certainly did 
claim to be in regular communication with very lofty beings such as the "Christ" Himself 
and the Maha-Chohan the "Lord of the World" ect..

He gave very elaborate descriptions of these beings in his book `Masters and the path'

http://www.teozofia.org/czytelnia/mp2.pdf

He also describe initiations ?!? and told people when they had been "initiated" even when 
they had no knowledge of it themselves?!?

This kind of awareness I would imagine required adeptic powers as these processes are 
said to happen on a Soul level.
Ordinary psychic vision would as far as my understanding goes not be sufficient to make 
these kind of pronouncements.

CWL always used a very a very matter of fact style that disarmed people into believing him.

He also used throw away lines like `don't believe me, develop psychic powers and see for 
yourself'....however his style was in reality one of paternalistic down talking & 
disempowerment while on the surface sounding  "oh so humble" as old Uriah Heep said.
Many of his statements are by implication and thus all the more insidious  in there power 
to enamour, dis-empower and disengage the intellect imo.

Cheers

Perry 

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, gregory@... wrote:
>
> Regarding the 1925 "revelations":
> 
> The revelations regarding "occult advancements" and such were given,
> essentially, by Arundale, but sometimes by Wedgwood. The announcement of the
> "Apostles" was given by Arundale, but (partly) publicly disclosed by Besant
> (without identifying Arundale as the source). Published accounts of the
> "revelations" are found in the writings of Emily and Mary Lutyens. I received
> further details of them from Rex Henry, Wedgwood's secretary at the time, and
> from Mary Lutyens.
> 
> Leadbeater did not accept, and indeed privately rejected, the "revelations":
> there are published accounts of his reaction in works by Ernest Wood and Adrian
> Vreede (who were with him when he received the news). Dick Balfour-Clarke, who
> was present when Leadbeater received the cable about the "Apostles", gave me a
> detailed account of his reaction in an interview at Adyar. Leadbeater did not,
> however, publicly repudiate the "revelations" for fear of splitting the TS. The
> Lutyens' books confirm that Leadbeater did not accept the "revelations".
> 
> Krishnamurti also rejected the "revelations" and arranged for Professor Marcault
> of "The World University" to communicate this fact to Besant. It may be that
> this was the catalyst for her sudden and rapid physical and psychological
> deterioration.
> 
> Arundale told Krishnamurti (allegedly passing on a message from the Mahachohan)
> that unless he (K) accepted the "revelations" his brother, Nitya, would die.
> While on ship to India, Krishnamurti received the news of Nitya's death.
> Krishnamurti's attitude to his supposed role and to the TS clearly changed
> dramatically from that time.
> 
> As for Wedgwood's health, physical and psychological: he had acquired an
> addiction to cocaine during his time in Paris in the 1920's and had contracted
> syphilis for which he refused treatment, apparently on the grounds that a
> person of his exalted occult status could not suffer from such a disease. These
> claims have been substantiated in interview with Rex Henry, a secretary and
> close friend of Wedgwood in the 1920's and by documents left by E.L.Gardner
> (who was responsible for having Wedgwood looked after in his latter years).
> Wedgwood declined both physically and psychologically, particularly after he
> settled at the TS centre at Tekels Park, near Camberley, in 1937. He died in
> 1951 after a fall in which he broke several ribs and ruptured a lung.
> 
> Dr Gregory Tillett
>