Theos-Talk Archives (February 2006 Message tt00459)

Hello Carlos,

If you can read the forming of the sixth rootrace written by this 
persons, you will see much more which affirms that vision.

Greetings Christina.




--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Pedro,
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> You will have to wait until tomorrow,
> as I do not have the SD where I have
> access to the computer.
> 
> I knew about James Wedgwood and
> I may comment more on him soon.
> His life was most interesting, wasn't it?
> 
> We are not in a hurry.
> 
> 
> In 1994 I did not work in the Brazilian
> TPH yet.  I started in 1995 and
> worked there up to 2001.
> 
> As you may know, my eyes as to the
> pseudo-theosophy
> of CWL were only opened as I worked
> in the Brazilian edition of the Mahatma
> Letters, a very strong experience.
> 
> I compared CWL/A.Besant with the
> Masters' Teaching and I saw they were
> the opposite in every major point,
> including ritualism, autonomy of the
> disciple, obscuration or life on Mars
> (as you know, HPB wrote that
> MARS IS IN OBSCURATION), and many
> other items.
> 
> But when I edited  CWL's book "Inner Life"
> in Portuguese language, I already noticed
> and got all possible documentation
> about the exclusion of the Martian texts.
> 
> It was only later that I discovered all the
> extension of Leadbeater's conscious or
> unconscious fraud.
> 
> Like many sincere theosophists, it took me
> long years to open my eyes.  Precisely
> two decades.  Because there is a relatively
> organized system of pressures for the truth
> to get covered. The kind of attitude that
> leads people to suppress texts.
> 
> But now, more experienced,  I see the
> importance of  the Leadbeaterian
> description of MARS and MERCURY, because
> it shows his level of clairvoyant fancy.
> 
> I admit. It too me too long to perceice
> the roots of Adyar TS's pseudo-theosophy.
> 
> How long will it take to you?
> 
> Carlos.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@...>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Theos-World Re: CWL & MARS
> >Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:51:22 -0000
> >
> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
> ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I may have lost some message here, so I will repeat
> > > the essential ideas:
> > >
> > > 1) If the Leadbeaterian descriptions of Mars & Mercury
> > > are literally accurate,  Why have them disappeared from
> > > later editions of "Inner Life"
> > >
> > > 2) Leadbeater was the main founder of the
> > > Liberal Catholic Church. He also had strong missionary
> > > instincts, and he visited MARS repeatedly. Do do you
> > > believe that he might have organized some secret
> > > religious mission to that planet, with L.C.C.
> > > priests?
> >
> >
> >No, you haven't lost it. My reply to you is included below. You are
> >welcome to ignore my answers. Just don't expect me to answer the
> >same question again and again.
> >
> >CWL was not the main founder of the LCC. It was James Ingall
> >Wedgwood, who was consecrated on 13th February 1916. CWL was
> >consecrated on 22nd July 1916. They are generally regarded as
> >the 'founding bishops', but the main founder was Wedgwood.
> >
> >Editorial matters should be referred to editors. I was never an
> >editor of TPH. Did you raise the editorial issues you are now
> >raising when you worked in the editorial section of TPH Adyar back
> >in early 1994?
> >
> >I see that you have chosen to ignore the quote from "The Secret
> >Doctrine" on life on other planets, also included below . You are,
> >naturally, entitled to do so.
> >
> >pedro
> >
> >
> > > >From: "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@>
> > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Theos-World Re: Pedro Oliveira, HPB, NASA & MARS
> > > >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:49:55 -0000
> > > >
> > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso 
aveline"
> > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As a former International Secretary of the Adyar TS who 
lived
> >for
> > > >several
> > > > > years in Adyar, perhaps you would give us all some
> >commentaries on
> > > >the
> > > > > accuracy of these revelations about MARS, made by the
> >remarkably
> > > >clairvoyant
> > > > > writer Charles Leadbeater, SEE BELOW.
> >
> >
> > > >Not being a clairvoyant myself I am not in a position to 
comment
> >on
> > > >his observations. Personally, I think he was just offering his
> >view
> > > >on the subject. But it is interesting to note that the 
following
> > > >passage from "The Secret Doctrine", vol. 2, addenda IV-B, 
seems to
> > > >consider the possibility of life in other planets:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Venus, like Mercury, has a very dense atmosphere, as also has
> >Mars
> > > >and the snows which cover their poles, the clouds which hide 
their
> > > >surface, the geographical configuration of their seas and
> > > >continents, the variations of seasons and climates, are all
> >closely
> > > >analogous — at least to the eye of the physical astronomer.  
But
> > > >such facts and the considerations to which they give rise, have
> > > >reference only to the possibility of the existence on these
> >planets
> > > >of human life as known on earth.  That some forms of life such 
as
> >we
> > > >know are possible on these planets, has been long since 
abundantly
> > > >demonstrated, and it seems perfectly useless to go into 
detailed
> > > >questions of the physiology, etc., etc., of these hypothetical
> > > >inhabitants, since after all the reader can arrive only at an
> > > >imaginary extension of his familiar surroundings.  It is 
better to
> > > >rest content with the three conclusions which M. C. Flammarion,
> >whom
> > > >we have so largely quoted, formulates as rigorous and exact
> > > >deductions from the known facts and laws of science.
> > > >
> > > >I. The various forces which were active in the beginning of
> > > >evolution gave birth to a great variety of beings on the 
several
> > > >worlds; both in the organic and inorganic kingdoms.
> > > >
> > > >II. The animated beings were constituted from the first 
according
> >to
> > > >forms and organisms in correlation with the physiological 
state of
> > > >each inhabited globe.
> > > >
> > > >III. The humanities of other worlds differ from us, as much in
> >their
> > > >inner organization as in their external physical type."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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