Theos-Talk Archives (February 2006 Message tt00368)

Dear Konstantin,

Thanks for your contribution.

I apologize for having to inform you that things are far more complex in 
life and in the theosophical movement than you seem to think.  I will give a 
few examples from human History.


* Think of Josef Stalin's "socialist" terror coming after Wladimir Lenin's  
popular revolution in Russia in 1917;

* Think of the Terror and Guillotine period coming after the initial 
democratic impulse of the French Revolution in 1789;

* Think of the imperial policies that came after the initial impulse of the 
North American Revolution in 1776;

* Think of the Imperial Churchianity, or Rome-Church-Christianity, which 
arrested, tortured and killed thousands of people in the name of Jesus --  
which came after the period when  Christianism was still a popular sect;

*Think about that, without aiming at winning a discussion, which is a 
useless goal, but aiming at understanding  the dynamics of historical 
movements.


Then you will see Leadbeater's and Annie Besant's creation of a 
"theosophical popery"  in a broader perspective.

Then, if you look at Adyar Society today, you will also  see that the days 
of the structure created by  Leadbeater and Annie Besant are numbered and 
getting to an end soon, because the structure got completely  disfunctional. 
 Look at the Adyar movement as it is.

A calm examination of the crazy facts of Leadbeater's period will help us 
open the way to a new and more authentic stage in the history of the 
movement.

It will also help us understand WHY Paul Johnson's ideas were USED by whom; 
and with what a MOTIVE, to discredit Theosophy as presented by ...  not HPB 
only, but by William Judge, Damodar Mavalankar, Subba Row, HPB  and many 
others.

It is NOT a question of fighting for power. It is a question of looking at 
the facts in a calm, impersonal way.   Love and respect for Truth is a true 
emotion, Konstantin. We all have that, I guess.

The power-structure of the Adyar Society cannot stand on its feet now 
because its pseudotheosophical and ritualistic fancies are basically dead.  
Then the true teachings will emerge again, opening a third great moment of 
Theosophical Movement's History. Not spectacularly, but in a gradual and 
laborious way.

There are no spectacular victories in the probationary path that leads to 
Theosophy.

But falsehoods don't last,  and truth has the good habit of emerging again 
and again.

Peace to all beings,   Carlos Cardoso Aveline



> From: "Konstantin Zaitzev" <kay_ziatz@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Theos-World Re: After Leadbeater's Fancies -- What?
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 02:40:07 -0000
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
> <carlosaveline@...> wrote:
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> > Indeed, Leadbeater's ideas and books are responsible, even now,  for
> > the structure of the Adyar TS.
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> Please note that he never took any office in TS (with an exception of
> being the recording secretary in HPB times, obviousy installed by HPB
> & Olcott). He just wrote articles and books, and many TS members not
> only believed into all that he wrote but exaggerated it in many times,
> for he many times repeated words of HPB that theosophy should not be
> believed to but tested by the common sense. And if he wrote nonsense,
> we might conclude that from the very beginning the wrong people were
> attracted to the Theosopical Society, people with the strong
> inclination to believe absurd things.
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