Theos-Talk Archives (February 2006 Message tt00327)

Bruce,

Only now I can read and comment your
excellent text "Identifying the Enemy" (below).

Really, as I write on February 16th, I can see that since
Paul has "revealed" Daniel (unless Daniel shows us he is innocent...),
much more people are contributing texts on several subjects,
which means a broadening of horizons, and Daniel has stopped
(so far) with those repetitious aggressions.

There is a democratization in the group, as I see it.

But Daniel still has the floor to show "David Green" and "Mr. Hobbes"
etc are not frauds created by him.


Best regards and thank you for you open perspective,   Carlos.

> From: "Robert Bruce MacDonald" <robert.b.macdonald@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Theos-World Identifying the enemy
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:44:24 -0700
>
> Is Theos-Talk on the verge of an epiphany?  Are we getting closer to the
> kind of Brotherly interaction that the Movement was designed to foster?  
> The
> Theosophical Society has been blind and hurt for over 100 years.  Perhaps 
> it
> is the case that a Daniel Caldwell was necessary, a Paul Johnson was
> necessary, and Theo-Talk was necessary.  We are beginning to understand 
> what
> is keeping us divided, it is our IGNORANCE concerning the type of behavior
> exhibited by the likes of Daniel Caldwell.  The members of Theos-Talk have
> had to endure this type of behavior for many years and maybe it is time to
> hear what they have learned.  There are many Daniel Caldwells in the world,
> perhaps it is time to identify their behavior, know why it is inappropriate
> and call them on it.  Ignorance is the enemy.  Understanding this ignorance
> is the sword that will slay that enemy.
>
> For those interested in this discussion, allow me to start it off.  What of
> the practice of calling you on some point you are trying to make and 
> showing
> how you are guilty of the same mistake and then providing close to one
> hundred examples of it and threatening you with more.  What is happening
> here?  Most often, when you look at the examples it is a case of comparing
> apples with oranges.  This leaves you with the task of having to justify
> your point by demonstrating how each example does not apply.  What if one 
> or
> two do apply?  Who cares?  We evolve and change as humans and if in the
> course of a discussion in the here and now we come to new conclusions, does
> that get invalidated by mistakes that we made in the past?  Brotherhood
> means being allowed to make mistakes because that is one of the few ways
> that we learn.  We should not be forced to acknowledge every error that we
> have ever made and make amends for them.  That is what Karma is for, does
> Daniel think that he is an agent of Karma?
>
> What do you do when someone throws such a list at you?  Perhaps one 
> solution
> would be to counter with the following:
> "That is quite the list you have there, however, I suspect you are 
> comparing
> apples with oranges.  Perhaps you can take one of the examples and
> demonstrate how you think it is appropriate to the present context."
> Make him do the work!  Do not let him take over the course of the debate 
> and
> control it by putting you on the defensive.
>
> Is there any other insights that anyone wants to share on the behavior of
> Caldwell/Green/Hobbes?
>
> Sincerely, Bruce
>
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