All Fields of Knowledge
Feb 09, 2006 12:47 PM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline
Dear M. Sufilight,
I agree with about every word you wrote below here.
As to the needed dialogue with all fields of human knowledge, something HPB
did all the time,
the part 7 of Sylvia Cranston's book "HPB" is superb, as it shows the
multidimensional impact of
HPB's work on the life of 20th century.
Shanti, Carlos.
From: "M. Sufilight" <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
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Subject: Re: Theos-World Answer to Daniel Caldwell
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:25:50 +0100
Hallo all,
My views are:
Carlos quoted a Mahatma Letter starting with:
"In a letter dated October 1884, a Master announces that the enemies of the
theosophical movement "...and more.
I would say:
Truth is the same regardless of the book that presents it or the teacher
who
proclaims it. It is the motive behind the activity and the level of
Knowledge, which is important.
Scholary dinners around an almost "Blavatsky books only ideology"
is maybe not always that good.
That was why Blavatsky wrote about the 7 keys in The Secret Doctrine and
elsewhere,
and said, that dogmatic dead-letter teachings is not to be given much value
if any at all.
Theosophical teachings aught to relate to TIME, the time of evolution,
place, people and circumstances.
Just a few views.
from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...
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From: "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" <carlosaveline@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: Theos-World Answer to Daniel Caldwell
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Daniel Caldwell has kindly recirculated his material about some of
> my ideas. Thanks. Here is my answer to what he had to say.
> The text below was published in "Fohat" and "The Aquarian Theosophist"
> after his own.
>
> Best regards, Carlos.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> LIBELS AGAINST THE TEACHER: A TEST TO EVERYONE
>
>
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>
> Carlos Cardoso Aveline
>
>
>
> Dear Editor,
>
> Since Mr. Daniel Caldwell now sees that publishing libels against H.P.
> Blavatsky is no longer accepted as "just normal" in theosophical
> circles,
> it is quite natural for him to try to criticize those who come up to
> defend
> the founder of the Theosophical Movement.
>
> As to me, he is welcome to do so. I would be proud to be attacked
instead
> of
> her. To be critized for defending HPB is good karma, not only to me,
> but
> to all those who have the opportunity and the priviledge to do this. I
> also happen to be among those students who have a heartfelt commitment
> with
> their souls not to be silent while utter lies and libels are publicized
> against their sacred Teacher.
>
> The way Daniel Caldwell and John Algeo - editors of "The Esoteric World
of
> Madame Blavatsty and of "The Letters of H.P. Blavatsky, volume I " -
see
> Theosophy is based in a certain moral relativism.
>
> It seems that for this kind of editor everything can be true and
> everything
> can be false, according to their own interests. Will publishing libels
> against HPB make a book "hotter" in the market?
>
> May belittling HPB help keeping the structure of the Adyar Society the
way
> it is now, Leadbeaterian, churchlike and ritualistic? They won't
think
> twice. They do not seem to care too much about truth.
>
> Before starting with this practice of adopting as true the same old and
> proved lies against an Initiate, Daniel Caldwell had already surrendered
> to
> the little editorial "paparazzi" pleasures of that which Ms. Radha
Burnier
> once called "keyhole curiosity" - that is, an exaggeration of, and an
> undue attention to, outer, smaller details about the life of great
beings.
> From that level of editorial practice to actively promoting falsehoods
> about
> HPB's life, at least one or two further unfortunate steps were taken by
> Algeo and Caldwell.
>
> [I will not accept discussing the karma of publishing abuses against
the
> very names of sacred Adept-Teachers, which Caldwell also did upon
> publicizing the libels fabricated by Emma Coulomb against HPB.]
>
> As to attacking HPB, though, not everybody in the Adyar TS thinks like
Mr.
> Algeo and Mr. Caldwell. I am happy to see that Ms. Radha Burnier and
> several other members of the Adyar TS do not seem to entirely agree with
> Caldwell's and Algeo's policy of circulating libels.
>
> While it is always disagreable to go into minor and external details of
> other peoples lives (except perhaps for paparazzi readers) - it is not
> always useless or harmful. Years ago, Walter Carrithers, Jr., for
> instance,
> did go into details in HPB's life in order to prove her innocent - and
he
> succeeded. Daniel Caldwell is going the other way around. He is walking
in
> the opposite direction - and he will not succeeed. The recent, now
> growing movement in defense of HPB will prove that there are still
> those
> who defend Truth in the Esoteric Movement. And Truth prevails.
>
> Now, should we get personally angry at Daniel Caldwell, John Algeo and
at
> those who make similar choices in life? Not at all.
>
> Those of us who may be tempted by feelings of anger should meditate in
the
> stoic philosophy of Epictetus, a freed slave and sage in the Roman
> Empire,
> a man who taught:
>
> "The untrained response to robbers and thugs and to those who otherwise
> err
> is outrage and retribution. Wrongdoers need to be rightly understood to
> form
> the correct response to their behaviour. The appropriate response to bad
> deeds is pity for the perpetrators, since they have adopted unsound
> beliefs
> and are deprived of the most valuable human capacity : the ability to
> differentiate between what is truly good and bad for them. Their
original
> moral intuitions have been distorted, so they have no chance at inner
> serenity. Whenever someone does something foolish, pity him rather than
> yield to hatred and anger as so many do." (In "The Art of Living, the
> Manual by Epictetus", a new interpretation by Sharon Lebell,
> HarperSanFrancisco, HarperCollins, USA, 1994, 113 pp., see p. 102.)
>
> As to Mr. Caldwell's arguments in his more recent letters published in
> Fohat
> (Fall 2005, pp. 53, 54 and 68), I am not sure that I have the required
> patience to answer everyone of his minor issues and gossipy details - a
> kind of patience that only that keyhole curiosity mentioned above can
> provide. Yet there are a few things I can say.
>
> Mr. Caldwell refuses to see the radical, oceanic difference between
> "negative accounts" and "proved lies and libels". Negative accounts
about
> HPB are welcome in my view, but not lies. Not Libels. Enemies, when
> sincere, teach us a lot. Liars, and those who publicize lies, are made
of
> a
> different stuff, whether they praise or blame. Mr. Caldwell accepts
> Solovyov and the Coulombs as historical sources. His position is
> outdated.
> He does not want to accept the fact that the Society for Psychical
> Research, SPR, abandoned in 1986 all charges against HPB, so no one now,
> except Caldwell and Algeo, will take Solovyov or the Coulombs as
> "historical sources" as to HPB's life.
> With regard to the publication done by the Edmonton Theosophical Society
-
> it was made in a correct way and it has nothing to do whatsoever with
Mr.
> Caldwell's "editorial" work.
>
> Mr. Caldwell and I seem to agree that the esoteric movement should not
be
> afraid of contrast and polemics when necessary. I would say that a
certain
> amount of rajas (movement) will serve to go beyond tamas, inertia, and
> sooner or later can open room for satwa, a higher harmony and rythm.
> Yet Caldwell defends the contrast between liars and sincere people, that
> is,
> he wants the disguised "contrast" of Solovyov, Coulomb and their
> followers
> against the teaching, the teacher and the Elder Brothers.
>
> That is not what HPB meant by contrast. The contrast she meant - also
> recommended by the Mahatmas - was the paradox between different aspects
> of
> reality, as honestly seen by different people.
>
> Surprising as it may sound to Mr. Caldwell and to Mr. Algeo - HPB did
not
> mean to defend the free circulation of proved offensive lies in a
movement
> whose motto is "there is no religion higher than truth".
>
> As to the origin of libels against HPB which were fabricated under the
> form
> of letters ascribed to herself - the same libels now enthusiastically
> accepted as "possibly true" by John Algeo and Daniel Caldwell - I must
> invite students to meditate upon some words of an Adept-Teacher.
>
> In a letter dated October 1884, a Master announces that the enemies of
the
> theosophical movement - having an active support from dugpas and liars
-
> aim at presenting false letters to attack H. P. Blavatsky. The Master
says
> that these texts are "pretended letters alleged to have come from
H.P.B.'s
> laboratory", and that they consist of "forged documents showing and
> confessing fraud and planning to repeat it". The Adept-teacher explains
> that the false texts were made with an "enthusiastic help from the
> Dugpas,
> in Bootan and the Vatican!" (See "The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett",
> T.U. P., Pasadena, CA, USA, 1992, Letter LV, p. 322.)
>
> This is the kind of stuff Mr. Caldwell and Mr. Algeo have been
> subreptitiously circulating as if they were true, while more and more
> theosophists fortunately open their eyes worldwide and start defending,
> first, the Truth, second, the inner core of the movement, and third
-
> HPB.
> Important as it is, HPB's personality is perhaps the least decisive of
the
> three factors mentioned above. The key element here is that behind the
> attack to HPB there is an attack to the core of the esoteric movement,
to
> the subtle magnetic connection between the Sacred Adept-Teachers and
the
> Students as a whole, at the living link or connection which she helped
> create and establish.
>
> One aspect of this sacred magnetic connection is referred to in
> Bulwer-Lytton's well-known occult novel "Zanoni".
>
> At the end of chapter four (book one), a sincere friend of Zanoni's
says
> that he considers "this illustrious gentleman" his friend and, in
future,
> he
> will take any whisperings against Zanoni's honour and reputation as an
> insult against himself.
>
> Indeed, esoteric tradition states that sincere students have no option
> left
> but valiantly defend their Teachers against unjust attacks - if such
> attacks
> are indeed unjust. If the students see the attacks, examine it, see
that
> the attacks are false and yet they do not defend the source of their
> learning, their inner magnetic link to the source of the sacred
teaching
> will wither away in a process of which they may have scarce
> brain-consciousness.
>
> Hence comes the occult test or "probation" present in such whispering
> attacks.
>
> As to Mr. Caldwell and Mr. Algeo, they can still think once more and
> abandon the practice of publishing libels against HPB. It may be
unlikely
> to
> occur, perhaps - yet it is still in their hands to do that.
>
> And every student of Theosophy has some degree of actual responsibility
> with
> regard to the adoption and circulation of such dugpa-libels as if they
> were
> part of Theosophical literature. It is up to us to investigate the
meaning
> and importance of this episode, and then to follow our own hearts.
>
> ( Best regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline )
>
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