Theos-Talk Archives (February 2006 Message tt00061)

Dear Frank,

Thanks for your views and your frankness.

As I am an independent student, I can only write for myself.

I recognize no too important difference between the Pasadena TS and the ULT 
as long as
I am concerned.

I believe that in the long run the United Lodge of Theosophists (ULT),   the 
Edmonton Theosophical Society (ETS, Canada),  the Pasadena TS, most 
independent theosophists around the world and many Adyar TS students have 
much more in common than not. That is my feeling.

I only believe that to include in "our" books  false letters ascribed to H. 
P. Blavatsky, "letters" which say that she was a Russian Spy, or that she 
help torture a cat to death,  during "occult experiences", or publishing in 
our "theosophical" books all those other lies against her and directly the 
Masters, invented by the Coulombs --  is not correct. Notr at all.   If you 
take the time to take a look at the "material", you will see what I mean.

None of this "publishing work"  has been done by the Pasadena TS.

So I have nothing to say against the Pasadena TS.   As to Radha Burnier, the 
Adyar international president since 1980, well,  she said in a 2004 letter 
to me that she did not support,  the publication of those "obviously 
spurious letters" (her words)  fabricated by Solovyov.

As to the Pasadena TS,  I only have to express to my friends there my deep 
gratitude for the splendid books they have published, among them the 
"Mahatma Latters", the "HPB Letters" to A. P. Sinnett" and Margareth 
Conger's "Combined Chronology".

I also enjoy reading the Pasadena TS "Sunrise" magazine, of which I was an 
air mail subscriber for some time.  People in the Pasadena Library have 
generously helped me in more than one occasion.

As to differences in occult matters, having differences is no reason to make 
propaganda of them.
Respectful difference are mutually enriching in the long run.

Most people have an ethical attitude towards different occult efforts and 
traditions or organizations, for which they feel they should have respect.

And I have plenty of reasons to have respect and gratitude for the Pasadena 
TS.

Besides, as long as I know the Pasadena TS did not make any attack to the 
ULT, or to Robert Crosbie. Therefore  I would rather put my energy in the 
mutual help between people who do not accept of publicize the lies against 
HPB, fabricated by Solovyof and the Coulombs in the 19th century.

Consider that Olcott himself wrote Solovyov was fifty times worse than the 
Coulombs.  If we examine the Sylvia Cranston's book "HPB",  we  see what the 
Coulombs  did.  Thus we can  have at least a  glimpse of Solovyov's "work".

Best regards,   Carlos Cardoso Aveline


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> From: "Frank Reitemeyer" <ringding@online.de>
> Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Every Challenge is ...
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 21:27:02 +0100
>
> =>Such efforts are now new, and they are not
> original. We have had persons of
> this typeattacking H.P.B.'s work all the time
> since the mid-1880s. We also
> have had people successfully defending Theosophy
> all along.  Yet -- there is
> something sad about this.
>
> Does this criticism also include the ULT policy,
> which opposed the humanitarian and occult work of
> Katherine Tingley, who continued HPB's work and
> fulfilled her last hope to build a Mystery School
> in the West? It is well know about HPB students
> that she died not before her closest co-worker
> William Judge was able to confirm her that he has
> found her successor.
> Why did the ULT tried to crystallize the evolution
> of the Theosophical Movement and propagated a
> status quo of OUTER FORMS?
>
> =>The very existence of students who try to live
> up to the inner side of
> H.P.B.'s Teachings seems to gravely offend these
> poor people.  This is
> unfortunate. No sincere student could ever aim at
> that.
>
> One can only wish that these aggressive skeptics
> will understand and accept
> the existence of such a thing as an occult life
> and spiritual path.
>
> In other words Point Loma students should direct
> all their compassion to ULT students, who opposed
> KT's spiritual work (which included the
> preparation of Blavatsky's Collected Writings and
> the complete edition of all Mahatma Letters to
> Sinnett).
>
> =>The lack of respect that these skeptics seem to
> show for the inner instances
> of the theosophical movement  might be connected
> to a lack of respect they
> have for their own inner consciousness and
> conscience.
>
> In other words ULT people like Robert Crosbie
> opposed the work of the messenger of the Masters
> merely because of their lack of consciousness and
> conscience?
>
> >As paradoxes are part of the occult life, there
> >is a bright side to this.
> Esoteric philosophy states that great
> opportunities are generally in direct
> proportion to the difficulty of challenges.
>
> In other words students of KT should thank Crosbie
> and other foes to give the white side an
> opportunity for growth!?
>
> There must be evil in the world, but watch that it
> is not you who does it.
> Frank
>
>
>
>
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